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<blockquote data-quote="mearls" data-source="post: 2624797" data-attributes="member: 697"><p>This is definitely an issue we're aware of. Just last week, we talked about a creature that had giant in its name, but its type was fey. We changed the name in development to prevent exactly this sort of confusion. It's confusing for players and DMs, and that's not something we want.</p><p></p><p>I'd wager that if the war troll came across the team today, we'd either change the type or give it a different name.</p><p></p><p>WRT class levels and monsters, there's been some debate on how likely it is that DMs use this tool. It's really not clear.</p><p></p><p>I think the issue is that class levels don't neatly create a 1:1 CR progression. A frost giant with a level of barbarian gets a lot for that +1 CR. A frost giant with a level of sorcerer? Not so much.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: As an aside, my favorite moment in my DMing career was watching as the players surrounded a frost giant. They were totally convinced they had the thing dead, right up until it was the frost giant's turn and I said the magic words, "The frost giant rages."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mearls, post: 2624797, member: 697"] This is definitely an issue we're aware of. Just last week, we talked about a creature that had giant in its name, but its type was fey. We changed the name in development to prevent exactly this sort of confusion. It's confusing for players and DMs, and that's not something we want. I'd wager that if the war troll came across the team today, we'd either change the type or give it a different name. WRT class levels and monsters, there's been some debate on how likely it is that DMs use this tool. It's really not clear. I think the issue is that class levels don't neatly create a 1:1 CR progression. A frost giant with a level of barbarian gets a lot for that +1 CR. A frost giant with a level of sorcerer? Not so much. EDIT: As an aside, my favorite moment in my DMing career was watching as the players surrounded a frost giant. They were totally convinced they had the thing dead, right up until it was the frost giant's turn and I said the magic words, "The frost giant rages." [/QUOTE]
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