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Warblade and Swordsage: Overpowered?
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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 3169298" data-attributes="member: 78"><p>I don't know about that. There's often a significant opportunity cost to using a manuever since many replace your normal attack action. While monk abilities are generally less powerful, they easily work in conjunction with each other. My monk ended up using pretty much all of his combat abilities at the same time, while the swordsage can generally only run any one of his stances, plus any one of his strikes, plus any one of his boosts at any given moment. And Greater Flurry is no small thing either. Plus since the swordsage recovery method kind of sucks and they can only ready one copy of a manuever, it seems likely they'll burn through their better moves rather quickly - or they'll won't have the chance to use their larger array of manuevers.</p><p></p><p>The warblade is probably less broken than it looks at first glance. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> On one of the other ToB threads awhile back I ran some numbers on a warblade spamming Time Stands Still versus a fighter full attacking, and the deficet the fighter needed to cover with his unspent feats wasn't nearly as great as I thought. And mean Fighter/Barbarian (and/or PrC) types can probably compete on an even basis with warblades.</p><p></p><p>Of course, I haven't seen the new classes in play yet either. Hopefully our group will get a chance to test them out soon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victim, post: 3169298, member: 78"] I don't know about that. There's often a significant opportunity cost to using a manuever since many replace your normal attack action. While monk abilities are generally less powerful, they easily work in conjunction with each other. My monk ended up using pretty much all of his combat abilities at the same time, while the swordsage can generally only run any one of his stances, plus any one of his strikes, plus any one of his boosts at any given moment. And Greater Flurry is no small thing either. Plus since the swordsage recovery method kind of sucks and they can only ready one copy of a manuever, it seems likely they'll burn through their better moves rather quickly - or they'll won't have the chance to use their larger array of manuevers. The warblade is probably less broken than it looks at first glance. :) On one of the other ToB threads awhile back I ran some numbers on a warblade spamming Time Stands Still versus a fighter full attacking, and the deficet the fighter needed to cover with his unspent feats wasn't nearly as great as I thought. And mean Fighter/Barbarian (and/or PrC) types can probably compete on an even basis with warblades. Of course, I haven't seen the new classes in play yet either. Hopefully our group will get a chance to test them out soon. [/QUOTE]
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