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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 3171055" data-attributes="member: 12032">Yep the joys of doing things by memory, thanks...I think in general your analysis was generous to the swordsage.  (Getting a sneak attack on an AoO is rare for example).  That said:* The HP/AC difference probably goes to the swordsage, but for some things there is nothing like lots of HPs.  * The barbarian has a marked advantage at range.* This swordsage build (all dex) is more than a bit broken and has lots of problems (carrying things for example)* I would argue that the fireball is quite likely to catch more than one baddy in the blast.  I never saw it NOT manage that in about 10 fights (using published Eberron modules...).  6d6 (+2 perhaps) is good area damage at this level.* As noted, fire resistance would suck a fair bit of damage away.  But if you _know_ you will be facing fire resistant baddies, you can select different maneuvers with a 5 minute break.* I chose the maneuvers somewhat randomly.  He should have one more 3rd level one...Net effect: the swordsage at 6th level is on-par with a fairly optimized warrior type (perhaps better in most fights, certainly worse in some).  This build can teleport 50' at will (well needs 1 round to regain that ability after using it, but that is _really_ handy esp. in a front-line fighter).  He could freely choose to spider climb at will.   And he has darn good skills.Thanks for doing the comparison!</blockquote>