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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 3175710" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>The only difference between Ftr and WB is Int. That's hardly a M.A.D. problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, to summarize: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bbn loses a class ability if he wears heavy armor.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">WB loses no class abilities if wearing heavy armor.</li> </ul><p>The advantage seems very clear-cut, actually.</p><p></p><p>Some do, some don't. The advantage still lies very clearly with the WB. Are you claiming that having ranks in Tumbling has no advantage other than its use in a martial maneuver? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>You've missed a few "interesting" abilities. Namely: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ability to switch weapon feats around to whatever weapon he's using. Have Weapon Focus on a Greatsword, but want it on Long Composite Bow for the up-coming ambush? Done.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">All "fighter only" feats are accessable, like weapon specialization.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Uncanny Dodge and improved uncanny dodge</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Int bonus to Ref saves</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Int bonus when flanking</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Int bonus on disarm, bull-rush, sunder, trip, etc checks</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>Me too. </p><p></p><p> Does that require a d12 HD? Does that require the better skill list and class abilities than the fighter?</p><p></p><p>If you have someone playing a Ftr, their fun will be diminished when someone brings in a WB.</p><p></p><p>PC: "I'd have more fun if my Wiz PC had d12 HD. Wha'd'ya say?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 3175710, member: 224"] The only difference between Ftr and WB is Int. That's hardly a M.A.D. problem. So, to summarize:[list][*]Bbn loses a class ability if he wears heavy armor. [*]WB loses no class abilities if wearing heavy armor.[/list] The advantage seems very clear-cut, actually. Some do, some don't. The advantage still lies very clearly with the WB. Are you claiming that having ranks in Tumbling has no advantage other than its use in a martial maneuver? :confused: You've missed a few "interesting" abilities. Namely:[list][*]Ability to switch weapon feats around to whatever weapon he's using. Have Weapon Focus on a Greatsword, but want it on Long Composite Bow for the up-coming ambush? Done. [*]All "fighter only" feats are accessable, like weapon specialization. [*]Uncanny Dodge and improved uncanny dodge [*]Int bonus to Ref saves [*]Int bonus when flanking [*]Int bonus on disarm, bull-rush, sunder, trip, etc checks[/list] Me too. Does that require a d12 HD? Does that require the better skill list and class abilities than the fighter? If you have someone playing a Ftr, their fun will be diminished when someone brings in a WB. PC: "I'd have more fun if my Wiz PC had d12 HD. Wha'd'ya say?" [/QUOTE]
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