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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 3176632" data-attributes="member: 12332">Honestly, personally ... unless you're a dedicated archer, D&D doesn't really reward you that much for having a bow.  I say this because I'm playing a dedicated meleeist cleric, which can get big and beatstick better than the party fighter ... and, since I have a level of Barbarian, I have bows.  So does the fighter.I go from damage in the 20-30s on a regular hit to 1d8+2 on a hit with my +2Str Composite Longbow.  Woo.  Even if we've got a flying enemy, it's better to get somebody to cast Fly than stand back and ping them for round after round.  Now, a specialized archer can dish down their own damage, but you've got a whole different build from a melee guy.The most effective I've seen bows in non-dedicated-archer hands was the time we built an ambush behind a thick specially-prepared Wall Of Stone and had +4 Aberration Bane Flaming Burst Arrows prepared specifically to slaughter some naga ... and, in the end, what really won there was a Bead-pumped Holy Word that paralyzed them all.  Then we Shaped a door in the wall and walked out and CDGed.Honestly, being totally protected behind a stone wall with maxed out super-arrows is about the best it's going to get, and it still wasn't that hot.--fje</blockquote>