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<blockquote data-quote="dvvega" data-source="post: 3189312" data-attributes="member: 524">This comment about Crusaders and &quot;endless&quot; maneuvers is incorrect. A common misreading of the Crusader's recovery rules that I've seen on different boards.I think this is indicative of one of the problems with people trying to compare classes and prove that their favourite is broken or the best or what have you.In the Crusader's case ...Crusader has 5 readied maneuvers at the start of an encounter.2 Accessible3 WithheldYou gain access to a Withheld maneuver at the end of each of your turns. Note that you can expend maneuvers and still gain access to withheld maneuvers.R1 (after you have acted)3 Accessible2 WithheldR2 (after you have acted)4 Accessible1 WithheldR3 (after you have acted)5 Accessible0 WithheldR4 (after you have acted)No Withheld maneuvers thus you recover all your expended maneuvers ANDWhenever you have no Withheld maneuvers you reset back to the start of combat where you have 2 random maneuvers active and 3 withheld. At no stage can you constantly have 5 maneuvers available.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dvvega, post: 3189312, member: 524"] This comment about Crusaders and "endless" maneuvers is incorrect. A common misreading of the Crusader's recovery rules that I've seen on different boards. I think this is indicative of one of the problems with people trying to compare classes and prove that their favourite is broken or the best or what have you. In the Crusader's case ... Crusader has 5 readied maneuvers at the start of an encounter. 2 Accessible 3 Withheld You gain access to a Withheld maneuver at the end of each of your turns. Note that you can expend maneuvers and still gain access to withheld maneuvers. R1 (after you have acted) 3 Accessible 2 Withheld R2 (after you have acted) 4 Accessible 1 Withheld R3 (after you have acted) 5 Accessible 0 Withheld R4 (after you have acted) No Withheld maneuvers thus you recover all your expended maneuvers AND Whenever you have no Withheld maneuvers you reset back to the start of combat where you have 2 random maneuvers active and 3 withheld. At no stage can you constantly have 5 maneuvers available. [/QUOTE]

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