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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 3192791" data-attributes="member: 224">I disagree.&nbsp; It's not <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question" target="_blank">Begging the Question</a>, it's just setting up a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man" target="_blank">Strawman Argument</a>.&nbsp; Different strategies...toward the same conclusion, I'll admit.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The paradigm we're all talking about is clear: it's 3.xe D&amp;D.&nbsp; We are comparing the efficacy of one class (the Warblade) to a similar class (the Fighter).&nbsp; Those that wish to show the Warblade is not overpowered must first prove the comparison is invalid -- toward that end they've used this &quot;different paradigm&quot; schtick.I note that no one's taken me up on the comparison of the melee potential of a Wiz 5 or a WB 5 toe-to-toe with a troll.&nbsp; That speaks volumes.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" /> I'll grant we could compare the Warblade to the Bbn, or perhaps the Pal.&nbsp; (A Rgr comparison would be more tenous.)&nbsp; I'm relatively certain we'd come to the same conclusion as we do with our comparison to the Fighter: the Warblade is not balanced with respect to the core classes.&nbsp;&nbsp; .....Arguably, it's not even close, IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 3192791, member: 224"] I disagree. It's not [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question]Begging the Question[/URL], it's just setting up a [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man]Strawman Argument[/URL]. Different strategies...toward the same conclusion, I'll admit. :) The paradigm we're all talking about is clear: it's 3.xe D&D. We are comparing the efficacy of one class (the Warblade) to a similar class (the Fighter). Those that wish to show the Warblade is not overpowered must first prove the comparison is invalid -- toward that end they've used this "different paradigm" schtick. I note that no one's taken me up on the comparison of the melee potential of a Wiz 5 or a WB 5 toe-to-toe with a troll. That speaks volumes. :] I'll grant we could compare the Warblade to the Bbn, or perhaps the Pal. (A Rgr comparison would be more tenous.) I'm relatively certain we'd come to the same conclusion as we do with our comparison to the Fighter: the Warblade is not balanced with respect to the core classes. .....Arguably, it's not even close, IMO. [/QUOTE]

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