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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 3192807" data-attributes="member: 224">I'm sure that's the case.&nbsp; It took me quite a while (several short sessions over several days) to get a really good feel for how the martial adepts work.&nbsp; being new to the material inevitably means making mistakes.Sure.&nbsp; I find Ftrs have the same issue with feats: &quot;I wish I had taken Close-quarters Fighting!&quot;...and he was more familiar with how to build a good fighter, I'll guess.&nbsp; Give that guy (or gal!) some time with the ToM:Bo9S, and that'll turn around quickly.What level were these PCs?Agreed.&nbsp; And the prerequisites (starting at 2nd level maneuvers!) can make cherry-picking the best ones very difficult.&nbsp; Errors in my first attempt at a WB 15 were legion!&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :o"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" />&nbsp; &nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> Yup.&nbsp; Familiarity is key.In my game, the WB (a Mnk/WB, actually) has discovered the power of the concentration skill.&nbsp; By taking a skill focus and a high Con, he can dish out some serious damage.Tell us more as you make discoveries!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 3192807, member: 224"] I'm sure that's the case. It took me quite a while (several short sessions over several days) to get a really good feel for how the martial adepts work. being new to the material inevitably means making mistakes. Sure. I find Ftrs have the same issue with feats: "I wish I had taken Close-quarters Fighting!" ...and he was more familiar with how to build a good fighter, I'll guess. Give that guy (or gal!) some time with the ToM:Bo9S, and that'll turn around quickly. What level were these PCs? Agreed. And the prerequisites (starting at 2nd level maneuvers!) can make cherry-picking the best ones very difficult. Errors in my first attempt at a WB 15 were legion! :o :heh: Yup. Familiarity is key. In my game, the WB (a Mnk/WB, actually) has discovered the power of the concentration skill. By taking a skill focus and a high Con, he can dish out some serious damage. Tell us more as you make discoveries! [/QUOTE]

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