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Warblade and Swordsage: Overpowered?
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<blockquote data-quote="sithramir" data-source="post: 3193206" data-attributes="member: 12183"><p><strong>Warblade is overpowered</strong></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately I don't check the boards enough to read this entire 9 pages of comments. However, being as i'm in a campaign that has had a warblade or two in it now i'll give my say. I apologize that i'm sure it'sbeen all said before.</p><p></p><p>Warblades are sickingly overpowered. Here's the example:</p><p></p><p>We are 5th level now and I have a fighter and my friend has a warblade. His choices of powers allow him to make a concentration check for reflex or will saves so he has a PLUS 17 which is just insane. (He hasn't taken the fort save ability yet which he'll trade for reflex as it's not as crucial in some cases).</p><p></p><p>The fact that he gets d12 hps, weapon specialization, adaptive style, 4 skill points per level, tumble are irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>HE DOES 1d20 + 17 damage at 5th level with insightful strike! Double that on a crit! Did I mention he doesn't really need str to do this? His second round he uses mountain hammer and adds 2d6 to his attack damage. So he can't do these things EVERY round? He has to spend a free action to get his abilities back while attacking normally. Must hurt.</p><p></p><p>We're only 5th level but that's just wrong. The fact that he gets all the other abilities over a fighter is just sad.</p><p></p><p>He can only get better. At 11th level he gets to do 1d20+25-30 points of damage TIMES 2! Even 3 times if crit'd. Oh and at 12th level he gets ancient mountain hammer and can add 12d6 with a strike. He doesn't even need to do a full attack to out damage almost any fighter.</p><p></p><p>I just think it's sad I find myself trying to take a level or two of it with other classes because the benefits are so great. I can take one level of warblade using half the levels of other classes and still get an amazing will save or fort save and great damage bonus's.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I think it's wrong that they make something like that when it's so obviously powerful. The only reason someone would take fighter now is for a few feats.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sithramir, post: 3193206, member: 12183"] [b]Warblade is overpowered[/b] Unfortunately I don't check the boards enough to read this entire 9 pages of comments. However, being as i'm in a campaign that has had a warblade or two in it now i'll give my say. I apologize that i'm sure it'sbeen all said before. Warblades are sickingly overpowered. Here's the example: We are 5th level now and I have a fighter and my friend has a warblade. His choices of powers allow him to make a concentration check for reflex or will saves so he has a PLUS 17 which is just insane. (He hasn't taken the fort save ability yet which he'll trade for reflex as it's not as crucial in some cases). The fact that he gets d12 hps, weapon specialization, adaptive style, 4 skill points per level, tumble are irrelevant. HE DOES 1d20 + 17 damage at 5th level with insightful strike! Double that on a crit! Did I mention he doesn't really need str to do this? His second round he uses mountain hammer and adds 2d6 to his attack damage. So he can't do these things EVERY round? He has to spend a free action to get his abilities back while attacking normally. Must hurt. We're only 5th level but that's just wrong. The fact that he gets all the other abilities over a fighter is just sad. He can only get better. At 11th level he gets to do 1d20+25-30 points of damage TIMES 2! Even 3 times if crit'd. Oh and at 12th level he gets ancient mountain hammer and can add 12d6 with a strike. He doesn't even need to do a full attack to out damage almost any fighter. I just think it's sad I find myself trying to take a level or two of it with other classes because the benefits are so great. I can take one level of warblade using half the levels of other classes and still get an amazing will save or fort save and great damage bonus's. Anyways, I think it's wrong that they make something like that when it's so obviously powerful. The only reason someone would take fighter now is for a few feats. [/QUOTE]
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