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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3193282" data-attributes="member: 43358">True, the warblade can potentially do his more often. I gave the fireball example though to show that the damage was close to par, especially once you toss in the multiple feat cost to get there.I think that with an 18 constitution that your friend would have had to put a smaller stat into strength than he would have done otherwise. To me this means that he sacrificed to hit and damage in order to get that bigger hit. Add in spending 2 feats to get there as well and the skill points and I am hard pressed to call it too many bad names.Are those assumptions correct? Did he put a 14 into strength while he put the 18 into constitution? If so what if we look at other attacks and see how they would compare overall on average? Especially if we take one of those two feats and put it towards something else.The warblade at level 5 only has 4 manuevers readied. If he puts one aside to use concentration for a single will save, as an immediate action, this is definately very impressive but it also uses up a lot his option pool.It outstripes the paladin for a single will save every other round at most.If he also has the other manuever readied to get the boost to reflex saves then your friend is literally sitting at something like this:Reflex save boostWill save boostConcentration strikeSomething elseAnd that is all that he does for the battle.It looks like he will use his concentration strike on the first round, regular attack on the second round recovering his manuever, and then strike on the third round. This routine only works though if he does not use his reflex or will save boost as those take immediate actions and recovering manuevers takes a swift action. So, using his save boost means that he disrupts his ability to use his concentration strike and his ability to get his save boost back.Was there ever another reason to take a fighter than for the feats?</blockquote>

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