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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 3193293" data-attributes="member: 18680">The problem with the fighter is that, without skills, it can't fulfil the role of a scout or a sniper (or a really effective guard for that matter).  It is hard to do the ounted warrior role in D&D givne the fragility of mounts (and the ability of the Paladin and Ranger to have better mounts as a class feature isn't helping any).  It has no rewards for lack of armor and every advantage for having heavy armor (unlike Barbarians and Scouts which have solid reasons not to be in full plate).  So the Fighter has three choices that I can see with-in the class:a) Direct fire archery b) Melee tankc) Weapon masterand one out of class option:d) fast qualificaiton for feat intensive prestige classes.Let's ignore d).  a) is hard even in core.  Add the spell compendium and the archery spells of the ranger are a real issue.  It's a little better with the feats of a fighter to fast qualify for things like precise shot at very low levels.  But, by level 3 or so, the ranger is doing fine.  Weapon specialization helps but only so much . . . b) and c) are tough.  The right extra books (PHB2; Complete Warrior gives the Paladin some great Divine Feats that more than make up for the extra feats that a Fighter can pick) makes a difference.  But the truth is that a well built Paladin seems to tank slightly better and a cleric is no slouch in this department.  So really, the best role for a fighter is weapon master.  He can learn exotic weapons (spiked chain) and dominate the battlefield.  But it's a narrow edge, in my opinion.  [Also, deeply counterintuitive, is that a human is a suboptimal fighter race; pretty much the best choice seems to be a dwarf especially given the sad saving throws and the necessity of heavy armor]So the warblade> fighter might be a mark of the fighter alone and not the warblade.  If the warblade was better than the fighter, barbarian, paladin and ranger then I'd be more convinced.</blockquote>

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