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<blockquote data-quote="BASHMAN" data-source="post: 3193342" data-attributes="member: 8277"><p>Wow! It's amazing that you have so many ranks in Concentration, considering you are a fighter who would have no use for taking so many ranks in a cross class skill that until now has been completely worthless to non-spellcasters. </p><p></p><p>Part of the reason that warblades get 4 Skill points per level is that they are required to sink max skill ranks into things that are only useful for making manuvers, like Concentration. I defy to come up with a _Good_ reason why a fighter would need to take concentration. The Warblade can only use it with maneuvers-- he does not cast spells, and thus has no other use for concentration. </p><p></p><p>There are other skills that warblades have to sink skill slots into for manuvers. If we assume he had decided to take only 2 schools, that would leave him 2 skill points per level to use other than the ones dedicated to his maneuvers. </p><p></p><p>Also, If you could explain how your 5th level warblade friend has a +17 Concentration check, I would LOVE to hear it, since the most ranks he can have is 8. Does he have a +9 CON modifier? Cause if that is the case, I dont think its the class that is game-breaking. I guess he could have taken a feat that gives +3 with skill focus... Assuming a 19 CON (max possible at level 5 without munchkin cheese), maxed ranks, and skill focus concentration, that is 4+8+3= 15. Btw, feats that give skill bonuses don't stack with eachother, or else you could take skill focus 10 times for the same skill for a +30 bonus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BASHMAN, post: 3193342, member: 8277"] Wow! It's amazing that you have so many ranks in Concentration, considering you are a fighter who would have no use for taking so many ranks in a cross class skill that until now has been completely worthless to non-spellcasters. Part of the reason that warblades get 4 Skill points per level is that they are required to sink max skill ranks into things that are only useful for making manuvers, like Concentration. I defy to come up with a _Good_ reason why a fighter would need to take concentration. The Warblade can only use it with maneuvers-- he does not cast spells, and thus has no other use for concentration. There are other skills that warblades have to sink skill slots into for manuvers. If we assume he had decided to take only 2 schools, that would leave him 2 skill points per level to use other than the ones dedicated to his maneuvers. Also, If you could explain how your 5th level warblade friend has a +17 Concentration check, I would LOVE to hear it, since the most ranks he can have is 8. Does he have a +9 CON modifier? Cause if that is the case, I dont think its the class that is game-breaking. I guess he could have taken a feat that gives +3 with skill focus... Assuming a 19 CON (max possible at level 5 without munchkin cheese), maxed ranks, and skill focus concentration, that is 4+8+3= 15. Btw, feats that give skill bonuses don't stack with eachother, or else you could take skill focus 10 times for the same skill for a +30 bonus. [/QUOTE]
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