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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 3193364" data-attributes="member: 12332">They've already covered how the guy got there.  As far as I can see, it's legit.  They've got feats in there that help the Warblade get up more Concentration.And Concentration is a one-off.  There's also stuff like Tumble in there, which not only works the Maneuver schtick but is ... TUMBLE ... "the" combat skill.   If they gave them Concentration and 3sp per level, and no Tumble, I would say:  "Hrm, okay, they added a skill point for Concentration in there."  And the Concentration stuff is still pretty powerful.  It gives good synergy in that this guy can max out his Concentration and use it for saves and damage.  He's probably tanked his Strength a bit, but he's using his Concentration skill instead.  It's a bit like the Paladin and Cha.  Paladins get good mileage out of Cha with the Saves + Smite + Divine Feats, etc etc.  Paladin gets Cha, an ability bonus which is expensive to increase, to attack rolls and to save ... as opposed to Concentration, which is Ability + (X+3) + Feats to saves and damage.  The Paladin gets Smite Evil as a class ability ... this allows him to strike Evil Creatures for "Paladin Level" in additional damage several times a day.  This single maneuver, out of several maneuvers, allows the Warblade to strike Any Creature for "Warblade + 1/2 non-Warblade + 3 + Feats/Bonuses" additional damage any number of times per day.One of the places where I'm saying some of these maneuvers just wildly make me go "HUH".  When they're blowing Feats out of the water and sinking Class Abilities like paper boats and you get a whole bunch of them PLUS class abilities PLUS d12hp PLUS skill points ... A guy comes on, playing in a game, with a Warblade, and he's playing a Fighter, and he feels slighted and he's unhappy ... but people just want to needle his math and cry foul.  (Even if his math is correct.)  He's in a game.  He's playing IN A GAME ... where his fun level has decreased because of this book and this class in particular.  Those are the kinds of costs I'm talking about. --fje</blockquote>

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