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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3193396" data-attributes="member: 43358">Nicely overstated, care to try again?If we assume that barbarians and rangers are well balanced, which I like to do, then the fighter comes up a bit short.If we look at how hp works in the game and what hd creatures have an typical con scores then d4 hd classes come up short.There have been a lot of threads based upon the fighter being a poor class. The arguements are many but I think it is easy enough to come down to one thing. If you assume that the fighter is well balanced then anything you base on that assumption is likely to be at least as flawed as the premise.I agree. So when is the fighter fix coming out?It is possible to make a fun, interesting, what-have-you character who has the abilities of a diabetic blind kobold who is allergic to things like air. Fun is in the eyes of the beholder.Balanced however is based on a lot more than that. It is very possible to make suboptimal choices in the game while someone else makes optimal choices and feel completely left out. It is unfortunate when the system enforces this with a poorly balanced base, such as in the case of the fighter.If someone is not having fun for whatever reason it is time to talk with the dm. Whatever the issue is can be resolved that way, I would hope, every time. Perhaps a few extra skills and skill points plus a special feat would fix up the fighter guy. That certainly seems like a good bet to me. Much more so than bringing everything else in the game down to the fighters level.</blockquote>

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