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Message: <blockquote data-quote="charlesatan" data-source="post: 3202911" data-attributes="member: 20870">The problem with save is that it doesn't win you games (much like in Magic: The Gathering people don't use Walls most of the time), at least directly (I mean it saves your hide...). And the problem with your saves is that they're limited to 1/round and you only have one of each until you need to "recharge". If I wanted a character with high saves, I'd go Monk or Paladin. Or usually just settle with a class that has two good saves.On a side note, at high levels, here's a good item to boost your Concentration checks: Third Eye of Concentration for 10,000 gp, in the Expanded Psionics Handbook (or SRD). Doesn't stack with your Tunic of Steady Spellcasting though (both are Competence bonuses).Also, I think you're going about your arguments wrong. Don't mistake me, I think the martial adepts are powerful classes, but there are other classes more powerful than it (spellcasters, gishes, etc.). As I mentioned, the Duskblade at 5th-level can easily deal 5d6 electricity damage (shocking grasp) plus whatever damage his weapon deals (greatsword, 2d6+6) as a standard action. Or even using core, at higher levels, I'd go Ftr/Wiz/Eldritch Knight combination, Polymorph myself into some insanely powerful creature (Firbolg and War Troll the most optimum forms), and one can easily outdo a high-level Warblade.And perhaps my biggest argument for your builds is that you're approaching it the wrong way. You're focusing too much on Insightful Strike (and Greater Insightful Strike). As a martial adept, my main stat would probably be Str (because I still need to hit things, and increases my damage potential overall) rather than solely Con. Because Con, at most, synergizes well with only the Diamond Mind maneuvers. For Stone Dragon, or White Raven, or Tiger Claw, or Iron Heart, I'd really want a good Str score. Your reliance on Insightful Strike is like a Wizard relying on Scorching Ray the entire time, when he has other spells to complement his abilities. Insightful Strike, for example, doesn't benefit from weapon enhancements (but it does for Concentration-boosting items, which is limited), feats, Str-boosting items, and anything else that usually boosts damage (i.e. Inspire Courage).</blockquote>

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