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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 3540198" data-attributes="member: 762">As other's have stated, it's not even close to this powerful - there are many more downsides.let's see if I hit most of them (even already mentioned I suppose)You have to focus on concentration which means one of your focuses is diamond mind - a good school but only 1 school.You have to ready it as a manuever - for the warblade this is a significant investment - even for the swordsage it's not miniscule.By using the manuever (as an immediate action) - the warblade cannot recover manuevers on his turn, as his swift action is considered expended. This means it actually takes 3 rounds before you can use this manuever again. The swordsage can recover the manuever, but can do nothing else on his action.Because of the above, relying on this manuever keeps the warblade on the defensive, not the place an effective warblade wants to be.By mid levels, and wizard with lots of will save spells will have caught on. Charm person 1st round - Charm monster/dominate 2nd round.Finally, the 2 times I've seen a warblade in play (once playing one, once DMing) the moment of perfect mind has not been the least bit overpowering (or in the case when I DMed even that effective, the player wished he'd readied something else).As for damage per round: In our last combat we had a 7th level bararian along with us. if he was full attacking 35 HP per round was low (granted he was hasted, but even without the haste he would have been up there). When he didn't full attack, he charged and used leap attack - he routinely did over 50 - and when he rolled a crit -well lets just say it was overkill.On a curious note - people always comment on how effective (broken etc) the warblade is. I've found (and seen) that in play crusaders leave warblades in the dust and so can a well built swordsage.Also comparing the classes to a core fighter is inacurate - core fighters at mid-high levels are not in the same leage as spellcasters. Now a fighter with access to splatbooks can keep up with the Bo9S classes (the problem there is that the fighter becomes a 1 trick pony - but that's a fun issue not a balance issue).</blockquote>

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