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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5725908" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Gryph: By your logic, you cannot interrupt an attack power with the trigger 'You are hit' because the rules for rolling to attack and resolving hits are on a different page than the description of attack powers.</p><p></p><p>Or for a more specific example, by your interpretation, Aegis of Shielding cannot deduct damage because not only is how to resolve an attack roll on a different page than the power dealing the damage, but how to roll damage is on a different page than rolling the attack.</p><p></p><p>In fact, the power dealing the damage <strong>is probably even in different book</strong> so they must be discrete steps that cannot influence another! How can you affect a kobold's attack against you with Second Chance if the power you're affecting isn't even in the same book as Second Chance?</p><p></p><p>Just because 'Death and Dying' is not in the same section as the resolution of the attack roll, or the same book as the power delivering the attack or a different book than the power that did it does not make those rules any less intertwined. </p><p></p><p>Nor, by the way, are the dying and unconscious conditions triggered effects. They are binary, like bloodied. If you are below your bloodied value, you are bloodied. You do not trigger a 'become bloodied' effect which resolves.</p><p></p><p>Similiar with dying, unconscious, and prone. When you are below zero hit points, you are dying. When you are dying, you are unconscious. When you are unconscious, you are prone. Dropping below zero doesn't cause a chain of triggers that you respond to one by one in terms of these conditions. Just like you can't be below bloodied value and not be bloodied.*</p><p></p><p>*as always, explicit exceptions can trump any of this, but do we really need this disclaimer</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5725908, member: 71571"] Gryph: By your logic, you cannot interrupt an attack power with the trigger 'You are hit' because the rules for rolling to attack and resolving hits are on a different page than the description of attack powers. Or for a more specific example, by your interpretation, Aegis of Shielding cannot deduct damage because not only is how to resolve an attack roll on a different page than the power dealing the damage, but how to roll damage is on a different page than rolling the attack. In fact, the power dealing the damage [b]is probably even in different book[/b] so they must be discrete steps that cannot influence another! How can you affect a kobold's attack against you with Second Chance if the power you're affecting isn't even in the same book as Second Chance? Just because 'Death and Dying' is not in the same section as the resolution of the attack roll, or the same book as the power delivering the attack or a different book than the power that did it does not make those rules any less intertwined. Nor, by the way, are the dying and unconscious conditions triggered effects. They are binary, like bloodied. If you are below your bloodied value, you are bloodied. You do not trigger a 'become bloodied' effect which resolves. Similiar with dying, unconscious, and prone. When you are below zero hit points, you are dying. When you are dying, you are unconscious. When you are unconscious, you are prone. Dropping below zero doesn't cause a chain of triggers that you respond to one by one in terms of these conditions. Just like you can't be below bloodied value and not be bloodied.* *as always, explicit exceptions can trump any of this, but do we really need this disclaimer [/QUOTE]
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