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Warden L6 Utility "Bears Endurance"
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<blockquote data-quote="nikadeemus327" data-source="post: 5728703" data-attributes="member: 6667520"><p>You have two logical statements that will always be true given the exact same events.</p><p></p><p>Trigger below 0 hp happens. Do you turn to p260 of the Rules Compendium and execute that effect? Or do you turn to the book/page for Bear's Endurance and execute that effect?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You cannot make any assumptions about order based on the information above. There is no order. Effects that happen at the same time have no order.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I'd like a citation for this rule just so I can read it. Even so...</p><p></p><p>There is no clear order between taking damage and dropping below zero hit points. They are the same event. Seriously, how do you separate the two? How can you take the damage and not also be below zero hits (using our examples).</p><p></p><p>So the player gets to choose to use bear's endurance before the damage is applied.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nikadeemus327, post: 5728703, member: 6667520"] You have two logical statements that will always be true given the exact same events. Trigger below 0 hp happens. Do you turn to p260 of the Rules Compendium and execute that effect? Or do you turn to the book/page for Bear's Endurance and execute that effect? You cannot make any assumptions about order based on the information above. There is no order. Effects that happen at the same time have no order. I'd like a citation for this rule just so I can read it. Even so... There is no clear order between taking damage and dropping below zero hit points. They are the same event. Seriously, how do you separate the two? How can you take the damage and not also be below zero hits (using our examples). So the player gets to choose to use bear's endurance before the damage is applied. [/QUOTE]
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