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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4630707" data-attributes="member: 40961">My group has a Warden.  The campaign just started, though, and the Warden's player is new.  We ran a short rat-killin' combat session just to kick the tires for all our new players, and she did alright. Issues I'm seeing right now:  1. A LOT of players took Toughness as their level 1 feat.  She didn't.  This means that she doesn't yet have better hit points than everyone else, so she's not feeling unusually tough. 2. She did take the Greatspear feat.  This makes her marking power very, very useful, instead of nearly worthless (seriously, the penalty for shifting away and attacking an ally is being pulled back after the attack is over?  At least it inflicts the vanilla -2 penalty...).  With a greatspear, I'd argue that she's got the best marking power in the game, because she can use the sweet "hit them versus a non AC defense and they grant combat advantage" effect that non reach wardens will never, ever get to use.  Unfortunately, this means she has an AC of 15. 3. She's nervous about taking damage. Overall, this is not a good combination.  She's got no better hit points than everyone else, a really low armor class, an incredible ability to convince monsters to attack her, and a fear of injury. I'm going to have to finesse this one as a DM, I think, largely by convincing her to stop worrying about getting hurt (sell it as heroic, her character not caring in the least about any attack that does less than bloody her) and by convincing her to take Toughness at level 2.  Once that happens, and once she gets a few levels under her belt, her hit points will take off and she'll surpass everyone else in the party on that score.  Once that happens, the crisis should pass. If this thread stays on the front page, I'll tell you how things go as the game continues.</blockquote>

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