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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 7290984" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Ah yes... the naming problem.</p><p></p><p>This has been the bane of the arcane warrior concept since the very beginning-- we've never come up with a satisfactory name for it. It always ends up resulting in paired or compound words we smush togther... Eldritch Knight... Swordmage... Spellblade etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>The one word that's been always used as the name for this concept is unfortunately a nonsense word that I don't think most people would ever actually want as a proper name-- "Gish". We all use it as a stopgap, but no one really thinks it has any heft to it like either 'Paladin' or 'Ranger' does.</p><p></p><p>I commend you in trying to use Warden as the name for your arcane warrior... unfortunately you are fighting against at least one edition (if not more) of class-name tradition that says a Warden is basically a Nature Tank (a la the Oath of the Ancients Paladin). As a result, you probably won't get much traction from people on it.</p><p></p><p>The Sterling Vermin Co. has named their arcane warrior the 'Magus', which I think is slightly better... but in truth its so close to 'Mage' that it makes me want to say "Let's just call an arcane warrior a 'Mage' and be done with it." But again unfortunately, we have an entire edition that has used Mage as the baseline arcane caster back when the name 'Wizard' hadn't yet been hammered down. Plus with its same use in WoW... trying to then change it over to an arcane warrior isn't going to be accepted by many people either.</p><p></p><p>Many more people besides just me have done searches on thesaurus.com in search of wizard or witch or magician synonyms to co-op and use for the arcane warrior... and nothing has stuck. Genius? Virtuoso? Marvel? Nope, nope, and nope.</p><p></p><p>In truth... I think the only real option remaining is to just once and for all choose a standard word that is fighter-esque and just SAY that it has magical connotations... even if it never necessarily had. After all... the word 'Paladin' was never really originally connected to any religiousness per se... for what we've always used it in for in D&D the name really probably should have been 'Crusader' or 'Templar' all along. And likewise, 'Ranger' was never considered a magical outdoorsman until D&D gave them spellcasting and they became the druidic-like "half caster". So despite the fact that none of these words denote magical ability (and indeed have been used in other ways before) if we want a one-word class name for an arcane caster, we have to just bite bullet and starting using it over and over until it GAINS the arcane connotations from the game that we're putting on it.</p><p></p><p>Advocate</p><p>Archon</p><p>Booster</p><p>Consul</p><p>Dynast</p><p>Gallant</p><p>Guardian</p><p>Luminary</p><p>Myrmidon</p><p>Paragon</p><p>Sentinel</p><p>Vindicator</p><p></p><p>Given my druthers, I'd just start using 'Archon' for the arcane warrior class. Sure, it's been used in D&D as the replacement for "Angels", but at least in 5E angels have returned in use. So since 'Archon' is a real word, is almost pronounced the the same as "arcane", has traditionally been a magical celestial creature/monster in D&D so it has a connection to magic, and at least in my opinion sounds cool as a word... then screw it, let's just co-opt it for the arcane warrior once and for all.</p><p></p><p>And if other people don't like it, then let's go with 'Luminary' or 'Paragon'. But at least we can say we've chosen <em>something</em>. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 7290984, member: 7006"] Ah yes... the naming problem. This has been the bane of the arcane warrior concept since the very beginning-- we've never come up with a satisfactory name for it. It always ends up resulting in paired or compound words we smush togther... Eldritch Knight... Swordmage... Spellblade etc. etc. The one word that's been always used as the name for this concept is unfortunately a nonsense word that I don't think most people would ever actually want as a proper name-- "Gish". We all use it as a stopgap, but no one really thinks it has any heft to it like either 'Paladin' or 'Ranger' does. I commend you in trying to use Warden as the name for your arcane warrior... unfortunately you are fighting against at least one edition (if not more) of class-name tradition that says a Warden is basically a Nature Tank (a la the Oath of the Ancients Paladin). As a result, you probably won't get much traction from people on it. The Sterling Vermin Co. has named their arcane warrior the 'Magus', which I think is slightly better... but in truth its so close to 'Mage' that it makes me want to say "Let's just call an arcane warrior a 'Mage' and be done with it." But again unfortunately, we have an entire edition that has used Mage as the baseline arcane caster back when the name 'Wizard' hadn't yet been hammered down. Plus with its same use in WoW... trying to then change it over to an arcane warrior isn't going to be accepted by many people either. Many more people besides just me have done searches on thesaurus.com in search of wizard or witch or magician synonyms to co-op and use for the arcane warrior... and nothing has stuck. Genius? Virtuoso? Marvel? Nope, nope, and nope. In truth... I think the only real option remaining is to just once and for all choose a standard word that is fighter-esque and just SAY that it has magical connotations... even if it never necessarily had. After all... the word 'Paladin' was never really originally connected to any religiousness per se... for what we've always used it in for in D&D the name really probably should have been 'Crusader' or 'Templar' all along. And likewise, 'Ranger' was never considered a magical outdoorsman until D&D gave them spellcasting and they became the druidic-like "half caster". So despite the fact that none of these words denote magical ability (and indeed have been used in other ways before) if we want a one-word class name for an arcane caster, we have to just bite bullet and starting using it over and over until it GAINS the arcane connotations from the game that we're putting on it. Advocate Archon Booster Consul Dynast Gallant Guardian Luminary Myrmidon Paragon Sentinel Vindicator Given my druthers, I'd just start using 'Archon' for the arcane warrior class. Sure, it's been used in D&D as the replacement for "Angels", but at least in 5E angels have returned in use. So since 'Archon' is a real word, is almost pronounced the the same as "arcane", has traditionally been a magical celestial creature/monster in D&D so it has a connection to magic, and at least in my opinion sounds cool as a word... then screw it, let's just co-opt it for the arcane warrior once and for all. And if other people don't like it, then let's go with 'Luminary' or 'Paragon'. But at least we can say we've chosen [I]something[/I]. ;) [/QUOTE]
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