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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wulffolk" data-source="post: 7291090" data-attributes="member: 6871450">[MENTION=6866167]Thurmas[/MENTION] i have always been a fan of "Gishes". I love the concept. When I said that I didn't care for you execution that was basically because what you wrote up included EVERYTHING that a Gish could possibly want. It is awesome at everything, without a substantial weakness.High A.C. Even with just scale armor, basic +2 Proficiency, no shield and no DEX bonus it can still have an A.C. of 21 with the Shield spell, add in a modest 14 DEX and you get 23 AC right away. With the option to use INT + DEX when not wearing armor, the Shield spell and Profiency bonus you have a potential 31 AC with a full +6 Proficiency and +5 in each Ability. Speaking of the Proficiency Bonus to A.C. that is like giving them a +4 Shield as a class feature by the time they get to high levels.Empowered WeaponGiving that extra damage die to every attack at no cost is powerful enough in itself, but then they change their damage type to Force, Necrotic or Elemental damage on top of that, allowing them to bypass Damage Reduction.Movement ModifiersI am not a fan of teleport abilities to begin with, but making it a class feature free of resources is too much. Also, the ability to fly is quite powerful.Hit Points and HealingAdding all of this to a warrior class with d10 HP, plus giving them so many healing options is an issue.. . . There were more points to make, but I am running out of time right now and not focused enough.The main point I wanted to make is that my problem is not with any specific class feature here, but with the sum of them when working together in one character. From a strictly optimization perspective this class seems like a dream. Tons of front-loaded abilities for multi-classing combos. Even as a single class it seems more effective at almost everything than any other single class. The only thing it can't directly compete at is casting high level spells like a full caster.</blockquote>

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