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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6050871" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>When it comes to potential PHB stuff, like races and classes, yes FR is very generic.</p><p></p><p>All the things you mention, and also all the uber-NPC and their worldwide organizations, are not stuff for the core PHB but go directly into the campaign setting sourcebook, thus they don't affect how well FR can be used as default setting, <em>unless</em> they decide to give the default setting a much bigger role than previously... but e.g. in 3ed the default setting was Greyhawk, but this did not impose anything at all to everybody's games except the religions (and a few spell names), while there wasn't even anything geographyical about GH in the PHB.</p><p></p><p>You can't do the same with Eberron, Ravenloft or Dark Sun. If you use Eberron as default setting, you can't not have Warforged in the PHB because they are a key race, and you can't not impose a "pulp" flavor. If you use Dark Sun, you can't not have psionics, and some races are heavily different from their most common and traditional concept.</p><p></p><p>But FR basically has the standard races in their most common form, plus Drow, which could be added as a playable race or not, it's not that important IMO since they are primarily an antagonist race. There is also no base class from FR that needs to be in the PHB, beyond those that most likely would be there anyway (unlike other settings which may need the likes of Artificer, Psion etc.).</p><p></p><p>This leaves only the religion stuff debatable IMHO... I think FR still has a very traditional D&D take on religions as a whole: they have the traditional deity ranking, demigods, the 9 alignments, avatars, racial pantheons, outer planes... fairly normal concepts. But of course the specific deities may not be everybody's taste, and while some of them are fairly standard and thererefore can easily work as e.g. god of justice, god of the sun, goddess of nature, goddess of beauty etc., others are not so obvious (e.g. CN god of war, LN god of death - at least as they were in 3e).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6050871, member: 1465"] When it comes to potential PHB stuff, like races and classes, yes FR is very generic. All the things you mention, and also all the uber-NPC and their worldwide organizations, are not stuff for the core PHB but go directly into the campaign setting sourcebook, thus they don't affect how well FR can be used as default setting, [I]unless[/I] they decide to give the default setting a much bigger role than previously... but e.g. in 3ed the default setting was Greyhawk, but this did not impose anything at all to everybody's games except the religions (and a few spell names), while there wasn't even anything geographyical about GH in the PHB. You can't do the same with Eberron, Ravenloft or Dark Sun. If you use Eberron as default setting, you can't not have Warforged in the PHB because they are a key race, and you can't not impose a "pulp" flavor. If you use Dark Sun, you can't not have psionics, and some races are heavily different from their most common and traditional concept. But FR basically has the standard races in their most common form, plus Drow, which could be added as a playable race or not, it's not that important IMO since they are primarily an antagonist race. There is also no base class from FR that needs to be in the PHB, beyond those that most likely would be there anyway (unlike other settings which may need the likes of Artificer, Psion etc.). This leaves only the religion stuff debatable IMHO... I think FR still has a very traditional D&D take on religions as a whole: they have the traditional deity ranking, demigods, the 9 alignments, avatars, racial pantheons, outer planes... fairly normal concepts. But of course the specific deities may not be everybody's taste, and while some of them are fairly standard and thererefore can easily work as e.g. god of justice, god of the sun, goddess of nature, goddess of beauty etc., others are not so obvious (e.g. CN god of war, LN god of death - at least as they were in 3e). [/QUOTE]
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