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<blockquote data-quote="Destil" data-source="post: 3237454" data-attributes="member: 1980"><p>Two things:</p><p>A) <em>Total repair</em> (i.e. construct <em>heal</em>): look it up. It's an Artifactor only 6th level infusion, artifactors don't get their 6th level infusions until 14th level. Clerics get heal at 11th. Even at high levels the warforged is a healing sink.</p><p></p><p>B) Have we forgotten what you get for being a dwarf?</p><p>EWP: Dwarf Waraxe</p><p>+2 to all saves vs magic</p><p>+2 to saves vs poison</p><p>Not slowed by heavy armor</p><p>+4 vs Trip and Bull Rush</p><p>And some other misc things that won't factor into combat.</p><p></p><p>The warforged are giving up 2 points of Wis (-1 to will saves, net difference of -3 vs the dwarf vs most effects. The main weakness of fighter types). They need to take a feat to get armor at 1st level, while the dwarf can buy or find a suit of adamantine full plate (with better DR to boot, the warforged needs 2 feats to keep up with the loot he can't use).</p><p></p><p></p><p>All in all warforged are pretty balanced vs. dwarves, though as KM has mentioned it's an 'extreme' sort of balance that may not sit well with some players.</p><p></p><p>Now, if dwarves are balanced is a whole other issue....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Destil, post: 3237454, member: 1980"] Two things: A) [i]Total repair[/i] (i.e. construct [i]heal[/i]): look it up. It's an Artifactor only 6th level infusion, artifactors don't get their 6th level infusions until 14th level. Clerics get heal at 11th. Even at high levels the warforged is a healing sink. B) Have we forgotten what you get for being a dwarf? EWP: Dwarf Waraxe +2 to all saves vs magic +2 to saves vs poison Not slowed by heavy armor +4 vs Trip and Bull Rush And some other misc things that won't factor into combat. The warforged are giving up 2 points of Wis (-1 to will saves, net difference of -3 vs the dwarf vs most effects. The main weakness of fighter types). They need to take a feat to get armor at 1st level, while the dwarf can buy or find a suit of adamantine full plate (with better DR to boot, the warforged needs 2 feats to keep up with the loot he can't use). All in all warforged are pretty balanced vs. dwarves, though as KM has mentioned it's an 'extreme' sort of balance that may not sit well with some players. Now, if dwarves are balanced is a whole other issue.... [/QUOTE]
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