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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 3758800" data-attributes="member: 957">I dislike the whole android thing. But I really hate quite completely the implementation of Warforged much moreso than the idea.You can argue that their pluses and minuses balance out.&nbsp; But if the pluses and minuses are excessive (and they are) then they still screw up the game even if the total is zero.If they are constructs then freaking make them be constructs.&nbsp; Instead they shoe-horned an idea to force fit it into a 1st level playable race.&nbsp; And IMO it is a mismatch that destroys the underlying concept without even achieving the goal of a decent +0 LA race.Now, they have made some vague statements about racial advancement in 4E.&nbsp; So it seems not out of the question that whenever 4E warforged come around they will be re-imagined with better success.But I still won't be at all interested in androids.&nbsp; With a little insane luck maybe they will do a new 4E setting in a year or two and warforged will become part of the history along with Thri-kreen...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 3758800, member: 957"] I dislike the whole android thing. But I really hate quite completely the implementation of Warforged much moreso than the idea. You can argue that their pluses and minuses balance out. But if the pluses and minuses are excessive (and they are) then they still screw up the game even if the total is zero. If they are constructs then freaking make them be constructs. Instead they shoe-horned an idea to force fit it into a 1st level playable race. And IMO it is a mismatch that destroys the underlying concept without even achieving the goal of a decent +0 LA race. Now, they have made some vague statements about racial advancement in 4E. So it seems not out of the question that whenever 4E warforged come around they will be re-imagined with better success. But I still won't be at all interested in androids. With a little insane luck maybe they will do a new 4E setting in a year or two and warforged will become part of the history along with Thri-kreen... [/QUOTE]

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