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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 3766454" data-attributes="member: 957">I'll be competely shocked if they are in.  There have been comments in multiple locations about playtests and it is not needed that every detail be repeated every time.  It seems very reasonable to guess that player A didn't see anything to match his warforged and took a swing at re-building it but player B was satisified with just changing his illumian over.To assume that every player was forced into the same mold seems vastly less reasonable.There was somewhere else where they mentioned that their group's first try at a worforged fell quite short of balanced.  And the tone of the statements were clearly, to me, joking it off as "their mistake, no harm no foul" in a way that distanced the "not balanced" concept from official in the works 4E stuff.Besides, putting warforged in would have fairly significant consequences.  It is easy to say that a group can just ignore them.  And they can.  But WotC also wants to sell as much stuff as they possibly can.  If warforged are in the PH1 then every DDI module will be forced to assume that a warforged is just as likely a party member as a dwarf.  And if warforged are "core core" then they should also appear as npcs.  And if the first fighter book has to spend page count of warforged feats and the 4E equivalent of warforged PClasses, then the value of the book will be reduced for a lot of people.It just doesn't make sense.  Particularly if you consider that they can pretty much just walk into having their cake and eating it too.  Leave the original core basically true to the "classic" fantasy archetypes and start supporting 4E Eberron quickly on its heels.  It sounds like it may be months to a year before the 4E core Eb book is out, but I do completely agree with you that on line support for Eberron will appear much earlier than that.  WotC will be in a hurry to support their Eberron fans.  But they are not going to alienate their "no robots* please" audience  to do it.  Especially since they can so easily please both groups.* - I'm not calling them robots, I'm refering to a group.</blockquote>

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