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<blockquote data-quote="kaomera" data-source="post: 5005038" data-attributes="member: 38357">While this may indeed be the case the player may simply have had vastly different expectations from what the experience turned out to be, even if purely because of the mechanics. Someone who hasn't been following the news on the FFG site or ENWorld could easily have expected something much more like previous editions (I've see a report that at least one GM was not aware of the magnitude of the mechanical changes until he got ahold of the demo material). For some players a significant change in mechanics is going to ruin the experience. Some people just don't like percentile dice, others don't like dice pools, and some may even dislike rolling d20s.I got pretty much this same response (although for somewhat opposite reasons) when I left a CoC game at a con some years ago. The immediate assumption was that &quot;Oh, he's a D&amp;D player, so of course he's not willing to enjoy anything else.&quot; The thing is, I had played and run CoC before, and IMO the scenario this particular Keeper was running was a hack-and-slash dungeon crawl with a few inaccurate Mythos references thrown on top.Anyway, to get off of this threadjack, WHFRPG3 looks kind of spiffy, but after playing 4e I'm not as excited as I could be about the physical components. It might be an interesting experience, and I'm open to trying it, but I'm not shelling out the price they're asking to do so and I reserve the right to find it unappealing. I'd probably want to watch a game in action before I tried it. One of the local gaming stores might end up with a &quot;play copy&quot; (several of the regulars have stocked up quite a selection of Euro-Games that are available to play), so maybe I will get to see it in action at some point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kaomera, post: 5005038, member: 38357"] While this may indeed be the case the player may simply have had vastly different expectations from what the experience turned out to be, even if purely because of the mechanics. Someone who hasn't been following the news on the FFG site or ENWorld could easily have expected something much more like previous editions (I've see a report that at least one GM was not aware of the magnitude of the mechanical changes until he got ahold of the demo material). For some players a significant change in mechanics is going to ruin the experience. Some people just don't like percentile dice, others don't like dice pools, and some may even dislike rolling d20s. I got pretty much this same response (although for somewhat opposite reasons) when I left a CoC game at a con some years ago. The immediate assumption was that "Oh, he's a D&D player, so of course he's not willing to enjoy anything else." The thing is, I had played and run CoC before, and IMO the scenario this particular Keeper was running was a hack-and-slash dungeon crawl with a few inaccurate Mythos references thrown on top. Anyway, to get off of this threadjack, WHFRPG3 looks kind of spiffy, but after playing 4e I'm not as excited as I could be about the physical components. It might be an interesting experience, and I'm open to trying it, but I'm not shelling out the price they're asking to do so and I reserve the right to find it unappealing. I'd probably want to watch a game in action before I tried it. One of the local gaming stores might end up with a "play copy" (several of the regulars have stocked up quite a selection of Euro-Games that are available to play), so maybe I will get to see it in action at some point. [/QUOTE]

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