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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6771767" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>Not with a longbow. I could always imagine it with a shortbow. Though it is clear they could not penetrate European armor very well. That's why the trained most of their lives horse bowmen of the Middle East couldn't take down knights with direct bowfire. They targeted their horses and tried to hit unarmored spots. So yes, it does seem unrealistic because highly trained bowman that trained harder than this guy couldn't pull it off against actual armored European soldiery. It's a lot harder to fire a bow in real combat with people chasing you and trying to kill you than a guy firing a bunch of arrows dancing about for fun. Same reason Mister Combat Trick Shooter who does amazing things with guns isn't great in an actual gun fight. </p><p></p><p>I don't get why anyone is attempting to interject reality into fantasy. It's kind of pointless. The D&D archer is more like Legolas or Crow on <em>Hawk the Slayer</em> or any of the numerous fantasy archers than real life archers. Just as guys wielding longswords often couldn't hack through full plate armor and the mace was far more effective at damaging opponents wearing plate due to the concussive force. D&D doesn't incorporate real world physics and military technology. It's a fantasy game. You want to walk the line of verisimilitude, not play in a game attempting realism.</p><p></p><p>In real life, armorers and weapon makers were in a constant state of competition. Each trying to make a better item to defeat the other person. If D&D were trying to mirror reality at all, it would have weapons for all kinds of jobs because most of the weapons in the player's handbook had advantages and disadvantages depending on the opponent. You certainly didn't bring a pike to a sword duel. You don't hack away with your longsword on someone's plate armor, which is why many longswords had points for thrusting and were used in a manner unlike what we see on TV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6771767, member: 5834"] Not with a longbow. I could always imagine it with a shortbow. Though it is clear they could not penetrate European armor very well. That's why the trained most of their lives horse bowmen of the Middle East couldn't take down knights with direct bowfire. They targeted their horses and tried to hit unarmored spots. So yes, it does seem unrealistic because highly trained bowman that trained harder than this guy couldn't pull it off against actual armored European soldiery. It's a lot harder to fire a bow in real combat with people chasing you and trying to kill you than a guy firing a bunch of arrows dancing about for fun. Same reason Mister Combat Trick Shooter who does amazing things with guns isn't great in an actual gun fight. I don't get why anyone is attempting to interject reality into fantasy. It's kind of pointless. The D&D archer is more like Legolas or Crow on [i]Hawk the Slayer[/i] or any of the numerous fantasy archers than real life archers. Just as guys wielding longswords often couldn't hack through full plate armor and the mace was far more effective at damaging opponents wearing plate due to the concussive force. D&D doesn't incorporate real world physics and military technology. It's a fantasy game. You want to walk the line of verisimilitude, not play in a game attempting realism. In real life, armorers and weapon makers were in a constant state of competition. Each trying to make a better item to defeat the other person. If D&D were trying to mirror reality at all, it would have weapons for all kinds of jobs because most of the weapons in the player's handbook had advantages and disadvantages depending on the opponent. You certainly didn't bring a pike to a sword duel. You don't hack away with your longsword on someone's plate armor, which is why many longswords had points for thrusting and were used in a manner unlike what we see on TV. [/QUOTE]
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