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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6772742" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>The 'casting' of a spell is the act of bringing a spell into being. It requires the caster to provide the V, S and/or M components, and expend the actions detailed in the spell's 'casting time'. Until ALL of that has been fully <em>completed</em>, there is no spell, yet.</p><p></p><p>If and when those things have been <em>completed</em>, the spell comes into existence, and persists for its 'duration'.</p><p></p><p><em>Counterspell</em> can only be used while a spell is being 'cast'; it has no effect on spells once they have been cast and now exist.</p><p></p><p><em>Dispel magic</em> can only be used to target a spell if that spell exists at the time it is dispelled. You can't dispel a spell during the casting time because the spell doesn't exist yet. You can't dispel a spell that has already come and gone if its duration has expired.</p><p></p><p>In the case of consecutive beams, if the first beam has been resolved then we know that the casting has already been completed, because the spell effects cannot exist before the casting is complete and the beam is an effect of the spell. Therefore, <em>counterspell</em> cannot now work against it.</p><p></p><p>We also know that <em>dispel magic</em> can only target a spell during the time that the target spell exists; it cannot target a spell that has not been cast yet, nor can it target a spell whose duration has expired.</p><p></p><p>If the beams are consecutive, then the duration of the spell begins as soon as the spell is cast (and the first bolt resolved) and persists until the final beam is resolved. Why do we know this?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Therefore, any readied dispel whose trigger is the first beam can target the <em>eldritch blast</em> because we know the spell exists at that point, and will continue to exist until the final beam is resolved.</p><p></p><p>If the beams are consecutive, then the 'instantaneous' duration (as all durations) is the 'length of time the spell persists'. The spell allows the warlock to shoot a number of beams. Those beams must be within the duration of the spell, because it is only the spell that allows the warlock to shoot beams, so if the spell is no longer there, the warlock's ability to shoot those beams is no longer there.</p><p></p><p>Lest we forget;-</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If the beams are consecutive they can be dispelled by a readied <em>dispel magic</em> because the <em>eldritch blast</em> must exist at that point. 'Instantaneous' spells cannot be dispelled, a spell with consecutive beams <strong>can</strong> be dispelled, therefore a spell with consecutive beams <strong>cannot</strong> be 'instantaneous', AND an 'instantaneous' spell <strong>cannot</strong> have consecutive beams. Therefore, the beams <strong>must</strong> be simultaneous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 6772742, member: 6799649"] The 'casting' of a spell is the act of bringing a spell into being. It requires the caster to provide the V, S and/or M components, and expend the actions detailed in the spell's 'casting time'. Until ALL of that has been fully [I]completed[/I], there is no spell, yet. If and when those things have been [I]completed[/I], the spell comes into existence, and persists for its 'duration'. [I]Counterspell[/I] can only be used while a spell is being 'cast'; it has no effect on spells once they have been cast and now exist. [I]Dispel magic[/I] can only be used to target a spell if that spell exists at the time it is dispelled. You can't dispel a spell during the casting time because the spell doesn't exist yet. You can't dispel a spell that has already come and gone if its duration has expired. In the case of consecutive beams, if the first beam has been resolved then we know that the casting has already been completed, because the spell effects cannot exist before the casting is complete and the beam is an effect of the spell. Therefore, [I]counterspell[/I] cannot now work against it. We also know that [I]dispel magic[/I] can only target a spell during the time that the target spell exists; it cannot target a spell that has not been cast yet, nor can it target a spell whose duration has expired. If the beams are consecutive, then the duration of the spell begins as soon as the spell is cast (and the first bolt resolved) and persists until the final beam is resolved. Why do we know this? Therefore, any readied dispel whose trigger is the first beam can target the [I]eldritch blast[/I] because we know the spell exists at that point, and will continue to exist until the final beam is resolved. If the beams are consecutive, then the 'instantaneous' duration (as all durations) is the 'length of time the spell persists'. The spell allows the warlock to shoot a number of beams. Those beams must be within the duration of the spell, because it is only the spell that allows the warlock to shoot beams, so if the spell is no longer there, the warlock's ability to shoot those beams is no longer there. Lest we forget;- If the beams are consecutive they can be dispelled by a readied [I]dispel magic[/I] because the [I]eldritch blast[/I] must exist at that point. 'Instantaneous' spells cannot be dispelled, a spell with consecutive beams [b]can[/b] be dispelled, therefore a spell with consecutive beams [b]cannot[/b] be 'instantaneous', AND an 'instantaneous' spell [b]cannot[/b] have consecutive beams. Therefore, the beams [b]must[/b] be simultaneous. [/QUOTE]
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