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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6772934" data-attributes="member: 6801315">The Making an Attack section does not apply to Chain Lightning because you are not making an attack.&nbsp; You are creating an effect which has a saving throw.&nbsp; The rules specify that in order to make an attack, you must make an attack roll.&nbsp; Fireball for example also does not follow the Making an Attack section.&nbsp; Picking of targets is done when you cast the spell and you can select legal targets within the effect range as detailed by the spell.&nbsp; For example, Fireball has the caster select a point, then details that from that point there's a range and all targets within that range are affected and must make a saving throw.&nbsp; Chain lightning is more specific in that the caster must first select a single target to be affected and then up to 3 secondary targets which are also affected by the same effect.&nbsp; It's just a different way to specify the range of the spell's effect when compared to fireball.&nbsp; In those cases, you follow what the spell says in the order it says.&nbsp; You select a single target first, then from that target select up to 3 secondary targets within range from the first, in that exact order.Divine Word works the exact same way except that you get to pick targets and exclude others as you wish within a specific range.&nbsp; So gain, it's fireball but you get to pick who within the area of effect you want to affect instead of having everyone within the area of effect be affected.&nbsp; In this case the requirement is that a creature be able to hear you.&nbsp; Barring a target being deaf (either by nature, spell, etc..) this falls under DM fiat.&nbsp; This spell though again isn't governed by the Making an Attack rules since you're not making an attack, you're provoking a saving throw vs an effect.Also:&nbsp; And what pray tell, are the things that people are primarily disputing?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6772934, member: 6801315"] The Making an Attack section does not apply to Chain Lightning because you are not making an attack. You are creating an effect which has a saving throw. The rules specify that in order to make an attack, you must make an attack roll. Fireball for example also does not follow the Making an Attack section. Picking of targets is done when you cast the spell and you can select legal targets within the effect range as detailed by the spell. For example, Fireball has the caster select a point, then details that from that point there's a range and all targets within that range are affected and must make a saving throw. Chain lightning is more specific in that the caster must first select a single target to be affected and then up to 3 secondary targets which are also affected by the same effect. It's just a different way to specify the range of the spell's effect when compared to fireball. In those cases, you follow what the spell says in the order it says. You select a single target first, then from that target select up to 3 secondary targets within range from the first, in that exact order. Divine Word works the exact same way except that you get to pick targets and exclude others as you wish within a specific range. So gain, it's fireball but you get to pick who within the area of effect you want to affect instead of having everyone within the area of effect be affected. In this case the requirement is that a creature be able to hear you. Barring a target being deaf (either by nature, spell, etc..) this falls under DM fiat. This spell though again isn't governed by the Making an Attack rules since you're not making an attack, you're provoking a saving throw vs an effect. Also: [COLOR=#000000]And what pray tell, are the things that people are primarily disputing?[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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