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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6775324" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Let's take a moment and unpack this. First, for a reminder, the text in question:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, let's go down the list, and you point out exactly where you have a problem.</p><p></p><p>1) You decide what the trigger will be. In the examples given, the triggers are, "[when] the cultist steps on the trapdoor," and, "[when] the goblin steps next to me." </p><p></p><p>2) You decide what action you will take in response to that trigger, or move up to your speed. In the examples given, the responses are, "pull the lever that open<s> [the trapdoor]," and, "move away."</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>3) When the trigger occurs, you take your reaction right after the trigger finishes, or ignore the trigger.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>If you have no problems with the above, then we can discuss what that means, but first some necessary assumptions. I'll list them so you can explicitly point out where you disagree.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>a) both example triggers are 100% valid, else why are they presented as example triggers</s></p><p><s>b) both example reactions are 100% valid, else why are they presented as example reactions</s></p><p><s>c) rules text generally says exactly what it means if it bothers to say something.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>So, with 1-3 and a-c above, we do not have to deduce or read into anything to get to the point that readied actions can interrupt other actions. We do this by noting that both triggers are not actions, but perceivable events that can occur at any point in many kinds of actions. Also, at no point in the rule does it refer to actions and trigger interchangeably. Also, the rule clearly states that, "you take your reaction <strong>right after the trigger finishes</strong>." Not the action, but the trigger. So if the trigger occurs within a larger action, the reaction still occurs 'right after the trigger finishes." Not the action that contains the trigger, but the trigger. It's right there in cold, clear rules text that doesn't require any additional insight other than reading the rules. </s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>State trigger. State reaction. Take reaction <strong>immediately </strong>after the trigger occurs. </s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>There's no discussion of having to wait until the action the trigger is part of is finished. If that's your ruling, then you're the one making up things and reading in, because there is NO mention anywhere in the rules. Like anywhere, man. If you're going to stand on 'can't interrupt actions' it's you that needs to find rules for that, not us.</s></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 6775324, member: 16814"] Let's take a moment and unpack this. First, for a reminder, the text in question: So, let's go down the list, and you point out exactly where you have a problem. 1) You decide what the trigger will be. In the examples given, the triggers are, "[when] the cultist steps on the trapdoor," and, "[when] the goblin steps next to me." 2) You decide what action you will take in response to that trigger, or move up to your speed. In the examples given, the responses are, "pull the lever that open[s] [the trapdoor]," and, "move away." 3) When the trigger occurs, you take your reaction right after the trigger finishes, or ignore the trigger. If you have no problems with the above, then we can discuss what that means, but first some necessary assumptions. I'll list them so you can explicitly point out where you disagree. a) both example triggers are 100% valid, else why are they presented as example triggers b) both example reactions are 100% valid, else why are they presented as example reactions c) rules text generally says exactly what it means if it bothers to say something. So, with 1-3 and a-c above, we do not have to deduce or read into anything to get to the point that readied actions can interrupt other actions. We do this by noting that both triggers are not actions, but perceivable events that can occur at any point in many kinds of actions. Also, at no point in the rule does it refer to actions and trigger interchangeably. Also, the rule clearly states that, "you take your reaction [B]right after the trigger finishes[/B]." Not the action, but the trigger. So if the trigger occurs within a larger action, the reaction still occurs 'right after the trigger finishes." Not the action that contains the trigger, but the trigger. It's right there in cold, clear rules text that doesn't require any additional insight other than reading the rules. State trigger. State reaction. Take reaction [B]immediately [/B]after the trigger occurs. There's no discussion of having to wait until the action the trigger is part of is finished. If that's your ruling, then you're the one making up things and reading in, because there is NO mention anywhere in the rules. Like anywhere, man. If you're going to stand on 'can't interrupt actions' it's you that needs to find rules for that, not us.[/s] [/QUOTE]
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