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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6775407" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Maybe. If you take the dash action, that movement is part of an action. If you take the attack action, with extra attacks, and move between attacks, that movement is part of an action. If the designer meant those triggers to be conditional only on someone moving outside of an action, you would think that they would say so. Since they didn't, and they also never said 'actions' but used 'triggers', then the reading is that you get to go 'immediately after the trigger occurs' regardless of any other considerations, such as where in an action the trigger occurs. It doesn't say, for instance, 'you get to go immediately after the action within which the trigger occurs.'</p><p></p><p>Also, there are zero, and I mean ziltch, statements anywhere in the rules that actions cannot be interrupted. In fact, in every case where you can interrupt someone else's turn, it's clear that you can interrupt actions. Counterspell, shield, AOs, and readied actions all do not have wording that says you cannot interrupt actions. They all refer to triggering events within actions. They do have differing mechanisms as to whether or not you can interrupt the <em>trigger</em>, but no mention of actions occurs.</p><p></p><p> [MENTION=6801315]Noctem[/MENTION] has zero rules support for his assertion that actions cannot be interrupted. None at all. Yet he's willing to argue that the rules say that actions cannot be interrupted, going so far as to claim that the clear examples and wording in Ready an Action does not contradict his stance. Note that the best support he has is that he claims that the examples don't <em>contradict</em> him, not that they support him. And even that's wrong, as the rule clearly says that you may reaction <em>immediately </em>after the trigger resolves. <em><strong>Immediately</strong></em>. Not after something else happens, not after the rest of the action resolves, immediately. It's harder to find a more clear rule on when something happens other than 'immediately after.' </p><p></p><p>Noctem is blowing smoke as hard as he can because he's desperate to not admit he made a mistake. That this is even more damaging to his claim he knows the rules than an admission of that mistake is something he doesn't seem to be able to see in his blind quest to never be wrong.</p><p></p><p>For the record, I'm wrong all the time. Just not this time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 6775407, member: 16814"] Maybe. If you take the dash action, that movement is part of an action. If you take the attack action, with extra attacks, and move between attacks, that movement is part of an action. If the designer meant those triggers to be conditional only on someone moving outside of an action, you would think that they would say so. Since they didn't, and they also never said 'actions' but used 'triggers', then the reading is that you get to go 'immediately after the trigger occurs' regardless of any other considerations, such as where in an action the trigger occurs. It doesn't say, for instance, 'you get to go immediately after the action within which the trigger occurs.' Also, there are zero, and I mean ziltch, statements anywhere in the rules that actions cannot be interrupted. In fact, in every case where you can interrupt someone else's turn, it's clear that you can interrupt actions. Counterspell, shield, AOs, and readied actions all do not have wording that says you cannot interrupt actions. They all refer to triggering events within actions. They do have differing mechanisms as to whether or not you can interrupt the [I]trigger[/I], but no mention of actions occurs. [MENTION=6801315]Noctem[/MENTION] has zero rules support for his assertion that actions cannot be interrupted. None at all. Yet he's willing to argue that the rules say that actions cannot be interrupted, going so far as to claim that the clear examples and wording in Ready an Action does not contradict his stance. Note that the best support he has is that he claims that the examples don't [I]contradict[/I] him, not that they support him. And even that's wrong, as the rule clearly says that you may reaction [I]immediately [/I]after the trigger resolves. [I][B]Immediately[/B][/I]. Not after something else happens, not after the rest of the action resolves, immediately. It's harder to find a more clear rule on when something happens other than 'immediately after.' Noctem is blowing smoke as hard as he can because he's desperate to not admit he made a mistake. That this is even more damaging to his claim he knows the rules than an admission of that mistake is something he doesn't seem to be able to see in his blind quest to never be wrong. For the record, I'm wrong all the time. Just not this time. [/QUOTE]
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