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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6777160" data-attributes="member: 6799649">No worries mate. I'm not embarrassed by being associated with the dissenters (even if I seem to be alone here), because that is indeed the case.It's okay if you don't personally wish to engage in this debate, but I do and it seems that some others genuinely do, even if they hold the other position. I'm totally okay with defending my case and deconstructing theirs, and just as okay with them doing the same; I'd be pleased, not offended.There are some that aren't engaging at all. Instead, they pretend to do so, while decrying others with quite absurd accusations, irrelevancies and abuse. I won't call them out by name, because that would be unfair to Noctem.</blockquote>