Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Warlock and Repelling Blast
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="seebs" data-source="post: 6788434" data-attributes="member: 61529"><p>The fact that you'd only use a readied action when there's nothing useful to do with your action is why I consider the cost "high"; it has to offer some kind of real advantage to be an option that you'd ever use.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because you might want to ready an action for "if the other party attacks us".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Could you point me to a single instance previously in the thread of anyone talking about the state of an "instantaneous" spell which has been readied, and thus which is subject to being prevented from going off by attacks? If you don't ready a spell, there's no way for an attack to break your concentration on an instantaneous spell, because there's no concentration involved in casting an instantaneous spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, that is because I was curious about a thing which I had not yet seen any discussion of. I am not only here to discuss your specific points, but rather, to discuss the topic in general.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a good point; it's clearly generally the intent that the mage slayer attack happens after the spell has been cast, and that this would include the initial spell effects (such as people making saves, targets being selected, and so on). However, I think you're mistaken about the necessity of distinguishing between casting and resolution, because the rules for readied actions clearly make that distinction.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said JC did that. See readied actions, page 193. "When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs." We have a distinction here where you have cast the spell, but are now "holding its energy", which means that you're done casting but are using concentration to keep the spell ready for a reaction.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And even has special rules for readying a spell, which <strong>change</strong> the way the "cast a spell" action works when you use ready to cast a spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that's the interesting question. You're allowed to target a "magical effect". Is a spell someone is concentrating on a "magical effect"? It seems to me that it might be considered one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seebs, post: 6788434, member: 61529"] The fact that you'd only use a readied action when there's nothing useful to do with your action is why I consider the cost "high"; it has to offer some kind of real advantage to be an option that you'd ever use. Because you might want to ready an action for "if the other party attacks us". Could you point me to a single instance previously in the thread of anyone talking about the state of an "instantaneous" spell which has been readied, and thus which is subject to being prevented from going off by attacks? If you don't ready a spell, there's no way for an attack to break your concentration on an instantaneous spell, because there's no concentration involved in casting an instantaneous spell. Yes, that is because I was curious about a thing which I had not yet seen any discussion of. I am not only here to discuss your specific points, but rather, to discuss the topic in general. That's a good point; it's clearly generally the intent that the mage slayer attack happens after the spell has been cast, and that this would include the initial spell effects (such as people making saves, targets being selected, and so on). However, I think you're mistaken about the necessity of distinguishing between casting and resolution, because the rules for readied actions clearly make that distinction. I never said JC did that. See readied actions, page 193. "When you ready a spell, you cast it as normal but hold its energy, which you release with your reaction when the trigger occurs." We have a distinction here where you have cast the spell, but are now "holding its energy", which means that you're done casting but are using concentration to keep the spell ready for a reaction. And even has special rules for readying a spell, which [b]change[/b] the way the "cast a spell" action works when you use ready to cast a spell. Well, that's the interesting question. You're allowed to target a "magical effect". Is a spell someone is concentrating on a "magical effect"? It seems to me that it might be considered one. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Warlock and Repelling Blast
Top