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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6788592" data-attributes="member: 6801315">Here's the problems with your position seebs:1.  in a scenario where readying an action is the worst choice, it means that readying actions = useless = why have it / it's a waste of rules space / it's not useful.  Ergo, you must be right and readying an action must have extra powers when readying a spell.  This is illogical and an appeal to those following the discussion to ignore real evidence in favor of your personal bias.  I would also argue that just because something isn't a good option most of the time, that it's nothing like what you describe.  Being able to ready actions or ready spells is awesome when you need it.  Just like being able to make ranged attacks is awesome when you need it.  Just because you don't need to make a single ranged attack during a whole days worth of encounters or multiple levels worth of play doesn't mean that ranged attacks are useless / a waste of rules space / etc..  Again, this is nonsense.2.  The spell you are concentrating on is just that:  a spell.  It is not described as a magical effect anywhere and is not considered an effect since by holding the spell you are holding the effects of the spell you cast by definition and by the rules.  You release the effects of the spell when you spend the reaction.  You're inventing rules text to justify your position.  Holding a spell is not having a magical effect which you can target by dispel magic.  You're trying to create an exception to how dispel and instantaneous spells interact which doesn't exist in the rules.3.  Specific beats general, the ready action rules specifically state rules for how this spell works.  This does not apply to game elements outside of readied actions and does not go beyond those specific rules.4.  Line item quoting is also used to take snippets of text out of their context or paragraphs in order to sometimes change their meaning or intent.  He's asking you not to do that respectfully.  The least you can do is respect his request.</blockquote>

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