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<blockquote data-quote="ryan92084" data-source="post: 6788616" data-attributes="member: 6802559"><p>I see the whole situation differently than you from the get go. To me a ready action spell is cast as normal but is held back from materializing (or however magic works in your setting) by the will power (concentration) of the caster. Because it isn't there yet it can't be targeted by dispel. Also I see breaking concentration with "sticks" as not the magic being vulnerable but the casters mind is distracted to the point that they lose the tenuous grasp they have on the held magic that wants to dissipate/return from whence it came. </p><p></p><p>There are plenty of other spells one could cast to ruin the day of a ready action concentrating caster. Anything that does damage, forces them to spend their reaction, forces them to lose their reaction, forces them to lose line of sight for their intended target, or causes their target to be out of range for example.</p><p></p><p>As already pointed out ready action spells are not held through multiple rounds by RaW. Also I'm not sure what instantaneous has to do with this discussion. Ready action just adds the middle man hold step the spell is still instantaneous upon release.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We fundamentally disagree with the purpose of readied actions in 5e. I see it as a way to gain a reaction when otherwise have nothing to do with it and your action. Ready action gets you movement, single attack through the attack action(no Extra attack or afaik bonus), a very risky full spell as a reaction, or other action. I do see that as inherently worse then using your action/reaction/bonus as normal if an option is available to you. You see it as a way to spend a useful action and reaction to get something better than they'd be individually? I think I have that right. I doubt that can be reconciled between us.</p><p></p><p> I'm not sure how the unreleased magic would be targetable. Unless in your setting a Ready action fireball has the "bright streak" flying about the caster until released? I would wonder why the fireball doesn't detonate when concentration is lost but otherwise is an interesting prospect.</p><p></p><p>The cast a spell action is not the ready action they have different rules. Ready action has discreet listed steps before a spell comes into effect and how they interact with being hit/disabled the cast a spell action does not. What works for one does not necessarily work for the other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ryan92084, post: 6788616, member: 6802559"] I see the whole situation differently than you from the get go. To me a ready action spell is cast as normal but is held back from materializing (or however magic works in your setting) by the will power (concentration) of the caster. Because it isn't there yet it can't be targeted by dispel. Also I see breaking concentration with "sticks" as not the magic being vulnerable but the casters mind is distracted to the point that they lose the tenuous grasp they have on the held magic that wants to dissipate/return from whence it came. There are plenty of other spells one could cast to ruin the day of a ready action concentrating caster. Anything that does damage, forces them to spend their reaction, forces them to lose their reaction, forces them to lose line of sight for their intended target, or causes their target to be out of range for example. As already pointed out ready action spells are not held through multiple rounds by RaW. Also I'm not sure what instantaneous has to do with this discussion. Ready action just adds the middle man hold step the spell is still instantaneous upon release. We fundamentally disagree with the purpose of readied actions in 5e. I see it as a way to gain a reaction when otherwise have nothing to do with it and your action. Ready action gets you movement, single attack through the attack action(no Extra attack or afaik bonus), a very risky full spell as a reaction, or other action. I do see that as inherently worse then using your action/reaction/bonus as normal if an option is available to you. You see it as a way to spend a useful action and reaction to get something better than they'd be individually? I think I have that right. I doubt that can be reconciled between us. I'm not sure how the unreleased magic would be targetable. Unless in your setting a Ready action fireball has the "bright streak" flying about the caster until released? I would wonder why the fireball doesn't detonate when concentration is lost but otherwise is an interesting prospect. The cast a spell action is not the ready action they have different rules. Ready action has discreet listed steps before a spell comes into effect and how they interact with being hit/disabled the cast a spell action does not. What works for one does not necessarily work for the other. [/QUOTE]
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