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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6795151" data-attributes="member: 16814">I'll say my pieces again, for clarity after all the weird redefining you attempted:1) you made a wild, unsupported conjecture in response to Arial to try to explain how his idea might not work.2) Arial responded, mostly ignoring your actual conjecture, and instead provided his own wild, unsupported conjecture about components.3) You responded, and did a halfway decent job of arguing against Arial's conjecture.  You then told him that he shouldn't make such conjectures without being able to back them up with the rules.4) I noted the fact that you had just done the same, in the post Arial was responding to, and that maybe you lacked the rhetorical high ground to tell other people to not do what you just did.  I didn't say anything about whether or not you were correct.5) An argument ensued in which you seemed to be arguing that you were right that Arial has no rules backing, and I argued that that's not what I said, I said you had just done the same kind of conjecturing that Arial had done.6) This continued, to the point where you insisted that the conjecturing wasn't the argument, that the argument was that Arial had said something not in the rules and you corrected him.  I found this a bit frustrating because I hadn't commented on the correctness of your claim, but on the proverbial pot and kettle issue.9) and here we are.  I still contend my original statement is 100% factual and true -- you both provided unsupported, extra-RAW conjectures while disagreeing with each other.  You told Arial he shouldn't do that (make conjectures that are unsupported).  I pointed out the contradiction between your actions and words.  I still think Arial was wrong (and you were wrong with your conjecture prior to his) and that you did a passable job of pointing that out in the same post you told him to either put up rules for his conjecture or stop making it.And now you're threatening me with withholding your accusations of falsehood, your strange insistences of what I'm allowed to say in my defense and what I'm not, and your general good opinion of me all because I won't admit I was wrong (what I'm supposed to be wrong about, to be perfectly honest, I'm still unclear on).  I'm very sorry you feel that way, but not very sorry that it means you'll stop.</blockquote>

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