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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6799707" data-attributes="member: 6801315"><p>I believe the logic is as follows:</p><p></p><p>In order to gain the effects of casting a spell, you must first successfully cast the spell. In order to successfully cast the spell you must:</p><p></p><p>Expend a slot of the appropriate level</p><p>Expend the required action type (Action, Bonus or Reaction being the 3 possible currently)</p><p>Perform the V, S, M requirements if any</p><p></p><p>As detailed in the spell entry and the spellcasting rules. Specifically the entry for Components found on page 79 of the Basic Rules PDF which reads "A spell’s components are the physical requirements you must meet in order to cast it" and " If you can’t provide one or more of a spell’s components, you are unable to cast the spell." This tells us that these are the requirements to even attempt to cast the spell. There's nothing in there about performing the component requirements throughout the spell, only that they are required to cast the spell in the first place. So I think this position is unfounded within the rules.</p><p></p><p>Once all of the above is completed, you have successfully cast the spell. You then gain the effects of having successfully cast the spell. So until you do the above, you have not successfully cast the spell. Some spells may have additional requirements listed in the effect section in order to cast the spell, but those are clearly listed and identified as "when you cast this spell you must also do x in order to cast the spell". But again these are all requirements that must be done in order to cast the spell and once you cast the spell you gain the effects. There is no reason to believe that you need to perform the component requirements during casting and continue into when you resolve the effects.</p><p></p><p>Now since the readied action language specifically states that you "cast the spell as normal" except that you then hold the effects until you release them later as a reaction, you would indeed NEED to perform all of the component requirements when you "cast the spell as normal" because if you didn't you wouldn't be able to cast the spell and would have nothing to ready.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6799707, member: 6801315"] I believe the logic is as follows: In order to gain the effects of casting a spell, you must first successfully cast the spell. In order to successfully cast the spell you must: Expend a slot of the appropriate level Expend the required action type (Action, Bonus or Reaction being the 3 possible currently) Perform the V, S, M requirements if any As detailed in the spell entry and the spellcasting rules. Specifically the entry for Components found on page 79 of the Basic Rules PDF which reads "A spell’s components are the physical requirements you must meet in order to cast it" and " If you can’t provide one or more of a spell’s components, you are unable to cast the spell." This tells us that these are the requirements to even attempt to cast the spell. There's nothing in there about performing the component requirements throughout the spell, only that they are required to cast the spell in the first place. So I think this position is unfounded within the rules. Once all of the above is completed, you have successfully cast the spell. You then gain the effects of having successfully cast the spell. So until you do the above, you have not successfully cast the spell. Some spells may have additional requirements listed in the effect section in order to cast the spell, but those are clearly listed and identified as "when you cast this spell you must also do x in order to cast the spell". But again these are all requirements that must be done in order to cast the spell and once you cast the spell you gain the effects. There is no reason to believe that you need to perform the component requirements during casting and continue into when you resolve the effects. Now since the readied action language specifically states that you "cast the spell as normal" except that you then hold the effects until you release them later as a reaction, you would indeed NEED to perform all of the component requirements when you "cast the spell as normal" because if you didn't you wouldn't be able to cast the spell and would have nothing to ready. [/QUOTE]
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