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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 3712331" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>A lot depends on your level with warlocks. Until you get Lesser invocations, it's hard to make a warlock sneaky. You can buy crossclass stealth skills, but you're not likely to be much GOOD at them, and skills aren't a warlock's strong suit anyway.</p><p></p><p>We suggest planning ahead a bit. Buy Move Silently as a cross class skill right out of the gate. If there are feats available to make new skills into class skills (I recall FR and Eberron did...I forget the details though) then make sure Move Silently is done so. Hide is okay, but less important, because when you get to choose your first Lesser Invocation, you'll be choosing Walk Unseen. It's basically Invisibility at will, and it lasts up to 24 hours as long as you don't break it.</p><p></p><p>It's like a Ring of Invisibility for free, basically. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Well, not FREE. You passed on some great stuff to get it. But you know what I mean.</p><p></p><p>Assuming you have decent Dex (which is arguably more important even than Cha for a warlock) and have maxed your crossclass Move Silent ranks, you should now be passably stealthy, with Invisibility subbing for Hide. Later on you can take Fell Flight (nice for "gunshipping") or that short range teleport power (which can work amusingly well with invis, since it leaves a 1 round image of you behind...so the round you teleport there's two of you, then next round you go invis...so both images vanish at the same time). Later on you'll want to put a Quicken Spell Like on your Invis (and/or the teleport), but that's just frosting.</p><p></p><p>It's -extremely- important to know what kind of warlock you want early on. Picking invocations at random will get you into trouble, and you'll spend long, frustrating levels trying to straighten them out. If you want to be a gunship, make sure you have some nice blast modifiers, and feats that enhance your ranged combat. Scouts and stealthy sorts are usually better off with teleporting than flying, since it can get them through barriers easily and synergizes well with invisibility. If you're not worried about damage output, you can choose blast mods that incur conditions or incapacitate briefly, or more subtle invocations like Charm, any of the Dispel powers, and/or skill boosting invocations. Feat choices are more flexible, but a stealth boosting feat might not come amiss.</p><p></p><p>Check out some of the spell like ability feats too, to help round out your magic abilities. Warlocks never get a decent TK-like power, for example. Selecting the feat that gives you Mage Hand (and some others) isn't bad, even if it IS 1/day. If you have Complete Mage, there are more invocation options, like Disembodied Hand which gives the warlock an ability to manipulate things at range, or even deliver touches...and Mask of Flesh, which can let you disguise yourself easily (great for stealthy types).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, just some thoughts. Have fun!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 3712331, member: 4936"] A lot depends on your level with warlocks. Until you get Lesser invocations, it's hard to make a warlock sneaky. You can buy crossclass stealth skills, but you're not likely to be much GOOD at them, and skills aren't a warlock's strong suit anyway. We suggest planning ahead a bit. Buy Move Silently as a cross class skill right out of the gate. If there are feats available to make new skills into class skills (I recall FR and Eberron did...I forget the details though) then make sure Move Silently is done so. Hide is okay, but less important, because when you get to choose your first Lesser Invocation, you'll be choosing Walk Unseen. It's basically Invisibility at will, and it lasts up to 24 hours as long as you don't break it. It's like a Ring of Invisibility for free, basically. :) Well, not FREE. You passed on some great stuff to get it. But you know what I mean. Assuming you have decent Dex (which is arguably more important even than Cha for a warlock) and have maxed your crossclass Move Silent ranks, you should now be passably stealthy, with Invisibility subbing for Hide. Later on you can take Fell Flight (nice for "gunshipping") or that short range teleport power (which can work amusingly well with invis, since it leaves a 1 round image of you behind...so the round you teleport there's two of you, then next round you go invis...so both images vanish at the same time). Later on you'll want to put a Quicken Spell Like on your Invis (and/or the teleport), but that's just frosting. It's -extremely- important to know what kind of warlock you want early on. Picking invocations at random will get you into trouble, and you'll spend long, frustrating levels trying to straighten them out. If you want to be a gunship, make sure you have some nice blast modifiers, and feats that enhance your ranged combat. Scouts and stealthy sorts are usually better off with teleporting than flying, since it can get them through barriers easily and synergizes well with invisibility. If you're not worried about damage output, you can choose blast mods that incur conditions or incapacitate briefly, or more subtle invocations like Charm, any of the Dispel powers, and/or skill boosting invocations. Feat choices are more flexible, but a stealth boosting feat might not come amiss. Check out some of the spell like ability feats too, to help round out your magic abilities. Warlocks never get a decent TK-like power, for example. Selecting the feat that gives you Mage Hand (and some others) isn't bad, even if it IS 1/day. If you have Complete Mage, there are more invocation options, like Disembodied Hand which gives the warlock an ability to manipulate things at range, or even deliver touches...and Mask of Flesh, which can let you disguise yourself easily (great for stealthy types). Anyway, just some thoughts. Have fun! [/QUOTE]
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