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<blockquote data-quote="Tessarael" data-source="post: 9731097" data-attributes="member: 12909"><p>How often are you casting Protection from Evil and Good? How often are you fighting aberrations, celestials, elementals, fey, fiends, and undead, or needing to avoid charm, frighten, or possession? In those circumstances, yes, it is a good spell. But while I've had access to that spell with different spell casters, I almost never memorize it. I'd be inclined to have a spell scroll of it handy for when I need it, but I don't think it is that important a spell. I'd argue that <a href="https://a5e.tools/spell/bless" target="_blank">Bless</a>, <a href="https://a5e.tools/spell/divine-favor" target="_blank">Divine Favor</a>, and <a href="https://a5e.tools/spell/shield-faith" target="_blank">Shield of Faith</a> are more effective typically.</p><p></p><p>There is that economy issue between combat maneuvers and spell slots for the Herald, as they don't get exertion points. I think this is much better solved with the 2x proficiency bonus exertion points from Fighter with the one level dip, when you get to the point where you want to multi-class. As W'rkncacnter mentioned, there is a big boost in combat maneuver progression with that level dip in Fighter, if you do it at Herald 7/Fighter 1, then you're actually getting two 3rd level Combat Maneuvers at character level 8, which is really nice. So I think this does provide strong justification for the one level dip into Fighter.</p><p></p><p>If you're using point buy for ability scores, by multi-classing at level 8, you're deferring getting to 20 in your primary ability score by a level. And otherwise at the next level after with single-classed Herald level 9, you're getting two 3rd level spell slots, where you can add Charisma modifier to an ally's saving throw or ability check once per short rest. So I'm doubtful that the one level dip into Warlock is worth what you're missing out on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tessarael, post: 9731097, member: 12909"] How often are you casting Protection from Evil and Good? How often are you fighting aberrations, celestials, elementals, fey, fiends, and undead, or needing to avoid charm, frighten, or possession? In those circumstances, yes, it is a good spell. But while I've had access to that spell with different spell casters, I almost never memorize it. I'd be inclined to have a spell scroll of it handy for when I need it, but I don't think it is that important a spell. I'd argue that [URL='https://a5e.tools/spell/bless']Bless[/URL], [URL='https://a5e.tools/spell/divine-favor']Divine Favor[/URL], and [URL='https://a5e.tools/spell/shield-faith']Shield of Faith[/URL] are more effective typically. There is that economy issue between combat maneuvers and spell slots for the Herald, as they don't get exertion points. I think this is much better solved with the 2x proficiency bonus exertion points from Fighter with the one level dip, when you get to the point where you want to multi-class. As W'rkncacnter mentioned, there is a big boost in combat maneuver progression with that level dip in Fighter, if you do it at Herald 7/Fighter 1, then you're actually getting two 3rd level Combat Maneuvers at character level 8, which is really nice. So I think this does provide strong justification for the one level dip into Fighter. If you're using point buy for ability scores, by multi-classing at level 8, you're deferring getting to 20 in your primary ability score by a level. And otherwise at the next level after with single-classed Herald level 9, you're getting two 3rd level spell slots, where you can add Charisma modifier to an ally's saving throw or ability check once per short rest. So I'm doubtful that the one level dip into Warlock is worth what you're missing out on. [/QUOTE]
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