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<blockquote data-quote="joshuacr" data-source="post: 1945328" data-attributes="member: 27472">I still can't see EB working with the SLA feats!Okay, I'm banging my head against the wall here! Maybe I need more sleep...Am I wrong?Here we go:Let's assume for the sake of argument that the EB is the warlock's CASTER level. At best, this is as high as he/she/it gets without hinky magic feats/spells/items. Let's also assume that the EB SPELL level is 1/2 the Warlock's&nbsp; CASTER level. According to the descriptions for heighten and maximize spell like ability feats, it's impossible to use an EB or any ability that uses the higher of the two options if EB comes into play (most abilities regarding invocations except some other invocations, right?). Going to both the heighten and maximize feat descriptions in CA (pages 80 and 81) and looking at the empower chart in the MM (p 304), the spell LEVEL able to be cast empowered [or heightened or maximized in this example&nbsp; which for EB always would be 1/2 the warlock's caster level] MUST be 1/2 the caster level-2 So, if you had a &quot;caster level&quot; of 6 (the minimum prereq for these feats), the &quot;highest&quot; spell level you could heighten/maximize would be 1 (6/2-2=1)! So, it's IMPOSSIBLE to EVER use EB, or any invocation with it that uses the &quot;higher&quot; of two choices (which I think is all except for a few &quot;other invocations&quot; that can be heightened or maximized not using EB like the chilling tentacles which you could take at level 14 as a 5'th level spell).So, if I listen carefully (after reading the description about maximize spell like ability using the maximized eldrich blast in CA,&nbsp; page 81, third sentence under benefits), I can hear the publishers toking the stuff they must have been using when they wrote this? PLEASE somebody show me I'm wrong! I'd love nothing more than to use maximized EB 3 times a day!&nbsp;I AM,&nbsp; --the truthseeker</blockquote>

[QUOTE="joshuacr, post: 1945328, member: 27472"] [b]I still can't see EB working with the SLA feats![/b] Okay, I'm banging my head against the wall here! Maybe I need more sleep... Am I wrong? Here we go: Let's assume for the sake of argument that the EB is the warlock's CASTER level. At best, this is as high as he/she/it gets without hinky magic feats/spells/items. Let's also assume that the EB SPELL level is 1/2 the Warlock's CASTER level. According to the descriptions for heighten and maximize spell like ability feats, it's [U]impossible[/U] to use an EB or any ability that uses the higher of the two options if EB comes into play (most abilities regarding invocations except some other invocations, right?). Going to both the heighten and maximize feat descriptions in CA (pages 80 and 81) and looking at the empower chart in the MM (p 304), the spell LEVEL able to be cast empowered [or heightened or maximized in this example which for EB always would be 1/2 the warlock's caster level] MUST be 1/2 the caster level-2 So, if you had a "caster level" of 6 (the minimum prereq for these feats), the "highest" spell level you could heighten/maximize would be 1 (6/2-2=1)! So, it's IMPOSSIBLE to EVER use EB, or any invocation with it that uses the "higher" of two choices (which I think is all except for a few "other invocations" that can be heightened or maximized not using EB like the chilling tentacles which you could take at level 14 as a 5'th level spell). So, if I listen carefully (after reading the description about maximize spell like ability using the maximized eldrich blast in CA, page 81, third sentence under benefits), I can hear the publishers toking the stuff they must have been using when they wrote this? PLEASE somebody show me I'm wrong! I'd love nothing more than to use maximized EB 3 times a day! I AM, --the truthseeker [/QUOTE]

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