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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9229622" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>I think you're treating a "might" clause as a definite claus here. There are a lot of beings in Lovecraft Mythos that make deals to gain power. While there are many options available, it is incorrect to say that an intentional pact would not be applicable. It very well could be. Again, this is one path specifically allowed in the PHB, but not the only path ... and when one path is labeled as something that "might" happen, I tend to think the other option would not also be labeled "unlikely". Might usually conveys a lower probability rather than a higher one. When as say something might happen, it is usually to dissuade someone from believing it is impossible. If it is likely to happen, we'd tend towards words likely likely, probably or certainly. </p><p></p><p>If you look in BG3 you can see clear examples of [spoiler]beings making deals with Far Realms inspired entities to gain power, safety or other boons in exchange for service.[/spoiler]Londo Mollari of Babylon 5 would be another example of someone that makes a deal with an Elder God type in exchange for power. I used that as an inspiration for a PC early in 5E that died too quick - He was a scholar that was infected by a parasite that was the actual one performing the magic. The scholar was a normal mortal, essentially. The thing would compel the scholar to do what it wanted him to do if the scholar was not compliant. The DM and I had fun with it briefly... when the thing compelled the scholar to do stuff, I'd leave until the DM called me back so that I would have no idea what took place while compelled. The PC, unfortunately, took a critical hit from a giant when he was low on hps .... and went straight to negative max hp ... <em>sigh</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9229622, member: 2629"] I think you're treating a "might" clause as a definite claus here. There are a lot of beings in Lovecraft Mythos that make deals to gain power. While there are many options available, it is incorrect to say that an intentional pact would not be applicable. It very well could be. Again, this is one path specifically allowed in the PHB, but not the only path ... and when one path is labeled as something that "might" happen, I tend to think the other option would not also be labeled "unlikely". Might usually conveys a lower probability rather than a higher one. When as say something might happen, it is usually to dissuade someone from believing it is impossible. If it is likely to happen, we'd tend towards words likely likely, probably or certainly. If you look in BG3 you can see clear examples of [spoiler]beings making deals with Far Realms inspired entities to gain power, safety or other boons in exchange for service.[/spoiler]Londo Mollari of Babylon 5 would be another example of someone that makes a deal with an Elder God type in exchange for power. I used that as an inspiration for a PC early in 5E that died too quick - He was a scholar that was infected by a parasite that was the actual one performing the magic. The scholar was a normal mortal, essentially. The thing would compel the scholar to do what it wanted him to do if the scholar was not compliant. The DM and I had fun with it briefly... when the thing compelled the scholar to do stuff, I'd leave until the DM called me back so that I would have no idea what took place while compelled. The PC, unfortunately, took a critical hit from a giant when he was low on hps .... and went straight to negative max hp ... [I]sigh[/I] [/QUOTE]
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