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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Caliburn101" data-source="post: 7031316" data-attributes="member: 6802178">"This comes across"?Please concentrate on what I actually said and stop reading other things into it - the last sentence is entirely clear - it even has a 'because' in it to leave no doubt what the unreasonable refers to. Unreasonable players argue with their GM when they GM rules on such things - that is clearly what I said.Just to be clear, I'd houserule the bag of rats at the time it came up after pointing out the difficulties of having a bag of rats, the ridiculousness of carrying such a thing around and that in my opinion that trying to do it is a step too far against the spirit of the game and the intent of the rules. If they argued at that point, then they wouldn't be reasonable as far as I'm concerned. As the GM I've put my case, made my decision and it's done. The RAW quite clearly states that the GM makes final rulings... and no bag of rats is required for that to work.I don't actually know anyone, anywhere who roleplays who would take this kind of rats in a bag idea seriously, which is of course one of the recurring themes on these forums. Some people like spending many hours dissecting the imperfections of 5th Edition and posting 'what if's' whilst simultaneously shooting down anyone who points out how ridiculous the situation being debated is, and booing anyone who would use their GM fiat to fix it.In reality, around countless tables, this debate is an irrelevance, because such a farcical situation doesn't arise the vast majority of the time, and when it does, the one person advocating it is in most cases the only person who thinks it's ok.</blockquote>

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