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<blockquote data-quote="pbd" data-source="post: 1883938" data-attributes="member: 20567"><p><strong>Uzagi_Akimbo</strong></p><p></p><p>You seem to tthink this class is vastly overpowered, but I think you are overlooking some major limitations.</p><p></p><p>The Warlock may have unlimited uses of the EB and invocations, but is severlt limited by the number of invocations known.</p><p></p><p>Take an 8th level Warlock vs an 8th level Sorcerer.</p><p></p><p>The Warlock gets unlimited uses of their invocations and has some pretty good choices, but has a total of 5 (3 least and 2 lesser) to choose from. </p><p></p><p>The Sorcere has at least 22 spells per day (7 - 1st lvl, 7 - 2nd lvl, 5 - 3rd lvl, 3 - 4th lvl) with a 14 charisma (minimum to cast 4th level spells; in reality it should be much higher) and 11 spells known (5 - 1st lvl, 3 - 2nd lvl, 2 - 3rd lvl, 1 - 4th lvl) and this doesn't include cantrips.</p><p></p><p>The Warlock's EB does 4d6 damage with a ranged touch attack and range of 60' unless he has Eldritch Spear, which increases the range to 250.</p><p></p><p>The Sorcere can do 8d6 damage 12 times (scorching ray or fireball/lightning bolt) as either a ranged touch attack or automatically (with a save for half damage) AND 5d6 damage 3 times (ice storm) or even out and out kill the opponent phanstasmal killer (save for 20 damage).</p><p></p><p>The Sorcere potentially has 15 attacks per day that can do more damage than the Warlock's EB. PLus even if the Sorcerer has all of the above damage spells, he still has 8 other spells known.</p><p></p><p>The Warlock has 5 total invocations known at 8th level regardless of charisma, 4 if he wanst his EB to have a range of 250'.</p><p></p><p>Keep this in mind when you explicate about how powerful the Warlock is compared to other classes. If he had access to every invocation whenever he wanted it he would be ready for every situation (and overpowered), however he has to choose carefully and will be limited in usefulness by his choices. </p><p></p><p>pbd</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pbd, post: 1883938, member: 20567"] [b]Uzagi_Akimbo[/b] You seem to tthink this class is vastly overpowered, but I think you are overlooking some major limitations. The Warlock may have unlimited uses of the EB and invocations, but is severlt limited by the number of invocations known. Take an 8th level Warlock vs an 8th level Sorcerer. The Warlock gets unlimited uses of their invocations and has some pretty good choices, but has a total of 5 (3 least and 2 lesser) to choose from. The Sorcere has at least 22 spells per day (7 - 1st lvl, 7 - 2nd lvl, 5 - 3rd lvl, 3 - 4th lvl) with a 14 charisma (minimum to cast 4th level spells; in reality it should be much higher) and 11 spells known (5 - 1st lvl, 3 - 2nd lvl, 2 - 3rd lvl, 1 - 4th lvl) and this doesn't include cantrips. The Warlock's EB does 4d6 damage with a ranged touch attack and range of 60' unless he has Eldritch Spear, which increases the range to 250. The Sorcere can do 8d6 damage 12 times (scorching ray or fireball/lightning bolt) as either a ranged touch attack or automatically (with a save for half damage) AND 5d6 damage 3 times (ice storm) or even out and out kill the opponent phanstasmal killer (save for 20 damage). The Sorcere potentially has 15 attacks per day that can do more damage than the Warlock's EB. PLus even if the Sorcerer has all of the above damage spells, he still has 8 other spells known. The Warlock has 5 total invocations known at 8th level regardless of charisma, 4 if he wanst his EB to have a range of 250'. Keep this in mind when you explicate about how powerful the Warlock is compared to other classes. If he had access to every invocation whenever he wanted it he would be ready for every situation (and overpowered), however he has to choose carefully and will be limited in usefulness by his choices. pbd [/QUOTE]
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