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<blockquote data-quote="ARandomGod" data-source="post: 1884011" data-attributes="member: 17296"><p>We've played with one, and are playing with one. Level 12... He's still extremely powerful even with the nerfs meantioned. Still, I do agree that there should be more playtesting to see his real general power level. As I said, I think that the nerfs that were done were done too soon. We'll see. There's still a Mirror of Opposition floating around out there. (Sure, maybe I should have smashed it instead of selling it... After all, apparently I'm still out there trying to kill me too.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>AND no need for magic items other than simple scrolls. Use 'em once, no loot for the party!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It'll be interesting to see as they level up to really high levels. As I said, we're at level 12, which is only the beginning. And already my mage is, at least fresh... well, almost on par power wise and definitly more flexible. After a big fight it's a different story, of course.</p><p></p><p>I recomment going the high charisma route, spear and chain shapes, bewitching blast with an eventual utterdark blast. And whatever else seems appropriat to your campaign. I might not get invisibility, going for the ring instead. But the Dimension Door... you really can't get that at anywhere near cost effectiveness. </p><p></p><p>But it's definitly harsh to be able to hit several enemies with a damaging blast, AND they have to save or be confused (and/or whichever essence you choose)</p><p></p><p>Of course, do tell us your opinion after you've seen the class in action! I suspect, of course, that there will be a more recent thread by then. I suspect there will be several as it gets out, much like there was on the MysticTheurge</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ARandomGod, post: 1884011, member: 17296"] We've played with one, and are playing with one. Level 12... He's still extremely powerful even with the nerfs meantioned. Still, I do agree that there should be more playtesting to see his real general power level. As I said, I think that the nerfs that were done were done too soon. We'll see. There's still a Mirror of Opposition floating around out there. (Sure, maybe I should have smashed it instead of selling it... After all, apparently I'm still out there trying to kill me too.) AND no need for magic items other than simple scrolls. Use 'em once, no loot for the party! It'll be interesting to see as they level up to really high levels. As I said, we're at level 12, which is only the beginning. And already my mage is, at least fresh... well, almost on par power wise and definitly more flexible. After a big fight it's a different story, of course. I recomment going the high charisma route, spear and chain shapes, bewitching blast with an eventual utterdark blast. And whatever else seems appropriat to your campaign. I might not get invisibility, going for the ring instead. But the Dimension Door... you really can't get that at anywhere near cost effectiveness. But it's definitly harsh to be able to hit several enemies with a damaging blast, AND they have to save or be confused (and/or whichever essence you choose) Of course, do tell us your opinion after you've seen the class in action! I suspect, of course, that there will be a more recent thread by then. I suspect there will be several as it gets out, much like there was on the MysticTheurge [/QUOTE]
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