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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 2208367" data-attributes="member: 1328">Related to the Warlock and Prestige Classes thread, here's the Warlock and Template thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As everybody knows, in order to become a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lich.htm" target="_blank">lich</a>, one has to create a phylactery.Each lich must make its own phylactery, which requires the Craft Wondrous Item feat. The character must be able to cast spells and have a caster level of 11th or higher. The phylactery costs 120,000 gp and 4,800 XP to create and has a caster level equal to that of its creator at the time of creation.Now, as you all know, those rules were written before Complete Arcane introduced the Warlock, and the "casting spells/arcane caster" distingo.Still, we have here two requirements: "must have a caster level 11th or higher" (can be met by warlocks), and "must be able to cast spells", which seems redundant with the caster level requirement.So, by the rules as written, warlocks cannot become liches, except if they multiclass, even for just one level, as a sorcerer, bard, cleric, druid, wizard, warmage, adept, wu jen -- well, as any class that can cast spells from first level onward. With just that level, and 11 warlock levels, they can be warliches.Question: do you think the phylactery requirement should be errated to suppress the "spellcasting" part? After all, if you don't use warlocks, it's redundant with the caster level thing, and if you do use warlocks, it's contrary, I think, to the warlock flavor to prevent them from becoming liches.</blockquote>

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