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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Evenglare" data-source="post: 6361895" data-attributes="member: 63245">I don't think the warlock with the blade pact is as awful as most people here think it is. If you are only playing the game for optimization then yeah.... go for the crazy multiclass Mountain Dwarf crazy combo. However if you want to actually BE a warlock for the blade pact for story and roleplaying reasons, I don't think you are necessarily going to lag behind anyone else really. No one here really mentions the spells that the warlock gets and how they can help you. Armor of Agathys is one that's pretty clearly made for this class, you get 5 extra HP, and if an enemy hits you, they take 5 cold damage. This kind of fits with the low ac, the warlock would want to get hit to deal that damage. Of course when you cast it at higher levels it gives more HP and does more damage. Blade wars gives you resistance to bludgeoning, pircing and slashing damage. Clearly for the blade pact warlock, and infact stacks with armor of agathys pretty well!Of course true strike is a spell geared to you for attacking, though it could be used for any attack, still something you would probably want. Hex is also one of your bread and butter spells that you would use with a pack warlock. Extra 1d6 necrotic damage when you hit with an attack also gives them disadvantage on an ability check of your choice. Mirror image also helps with your AC concerns. I'm not actually sure if it stacks with armor of agathys but I think I would allow it to for the extra cold damage.There's also things like armor of shadows which allow you to cast mage armor at will, which is REALLY cool along with the other blade pact invocations for doing more damage as you indicated you wanted to do.And theres many many more that I'm not going to even go into, you can look at the spells yourself. But to me I don't see the concerns that the warlock is just objectively worse than your straight fighter melee type class. Yes, it's different, you ARE going to get hit, but I think that's by design rather than an oversight, you sacrifice yourself to do more damage with the Armor of Agathys which fits in with the theme of the warlock class. This is also coupled with the fact that you get your spells back after every short rest. Of course if you simply must have better ac (which lessens the frequency of the agathys damage) then pick a human and get an armor feat or something.But again, these are only my thoughts, I'm sure people are going to jump on me and tell me how statistically wrong I am, so take this as you will. I don't think blade pact warlocks are bad at all. Just... different and no immediately obvious compared to something like a fighter.</blockquote>

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