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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 4394532" data-attributes="member: 71699">It's a fair point. He may have used multiclass cheese, which my feeling is one of the best L1 picks, but nevertheless +9 at first indicates a committment. You want him to have some fun with this skill.  You're also entitled to say a given situation isn't approprite, like if he tries it in the middle of a well lit room in front of guards who saw him enter. Or whatever situation you and your group feel doesn't fit your idea of what's right.  Mearls does emphasise CA from Stealth. There are lots of other ways to get CA, especially using TP, of course. The thing is not to make it take up too much time at the table.  I generally agree with this. It can get to be more rolls if the bad-guys all start throwing in active Perception checks on their turn, so the best thing to do is even though it's only a minor for them to do that, think about which ones really are interested in spotting the Warlock.  It may also be that the Warlock's first chance to hide will be in their next turn, since their feature produces the concealment as a result of moving, and therefore they may not have concealment while they have actions remaining to use it. I've put some rules in a thread in this forum called Stealth - Streamlined. If you use them you should be warned not all agree about the 'minor actions' ruling. Some also like to allow move actions, and others like to allow trained Stealth users to throw in a check on a minor action used for some other purpose. -vk</blockquote>

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