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<blockquote data-quote="The Shadow" data-source="post: 5994829" data-attributes="member: 16760"><p>As we know, the Magic-User and Acolyte specialties give one a taste of the wizard and cleric classes, respectively. Can we imagine similar specialties for the sorcerer and warlock?</p><p></p><p>It might seem at first that having one for sorcerer wouldn't mean anything, as sorcery depends on a bloodline. But perhaps one can have the bloodline in a lesser way that doesn't run as strong (at least not until such point as one's player decides to take a level in sorcerer <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> and the specialty represents working on developing it.</p><p></p><p>Whatever the 1st-level feat grants, it seems unlikely to be minor spells. It would be indistinguishable from Arcane Dabbler, for one; and for another, sorcerers only ever get two. Besides, the bloodline is the really distinctive thing. Perhaps a Dragon Bloodline specialty would grant 1 point of Willpower, and access the Dragon Strength sorcerous power? While the 3rd level feat would grant 2 more points of Willpower and access to Dragon Scales? (Problem, though: Sorcerers only get Dragon Scales at 4th level.)</p><p></p><p>These feats would still be tempting to the sorcerer, just as Magic-User is to wizards; sorcerers are going to want every scrap of Willpower they can get.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, it might seem at first that warlock is very unsuitable to a specialty - you can't have a little bit of a pact any more than you can be a little bit pregnant. And the minor invocations are more powerful than minor spells, and might well seem unsuitable. But I can think of one thing that the warlock has that others might have: Ritual casting.</p><p></p><p>The 1st level feat, call it Ritualist, would give you a spellbook and one warlock spell in it. Anything else, you'd have to get from scrolls and so on. But I'm a bit stumped as to what further feats it might grant. Any ideas?</p><p></p><p>(It could be argued that Ritualist could just as easily be derived from wizard, although warlocks do get some cleric spells as well. It could even be that something like Ritualist does appear later on in the Magic-User specialty.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Shadow, post: 5994829, member: 16760"] As we know, the Magic-User and Acolyte specialties give one a taste of the wizard and cleric classes, respectively. Can we imagine similar specialties for the sorcerer and warlock? It might seem at first that having one for sorcerer wouldn't mean anything, as sorcery depends on a bloodline. But perhaps one can have the bloodline in a lesser way that doesn't run as strong (at least not until such point as one's player decides to take a level in sorcerer :) and the specialty represents working on developing it. Whatever the 1st-level feat grants, it seems unlikely to be minor spells. It would be indistinguishable from Arcane Dabbler, for one; and for another, sorcerers only ever get two. Besides, the bloodline is the really distinctive thing. Perhaps a Dragon Bloodline specialty would grant 1 point of Willpower, and access the Dragon Strength sorcerous power? While the 3rd level feat would grant 2 more points of Willpower and access to Dragon Scales? (Problem, though: Sorcerers only get Dragon Scales at 4th level.) These feats would still be tempting to the sorcerer, just as Magic-User is to wizards; sorcerers are going to want every scrap of Willpower they can get. Likewise, it might seem at first that warlock is very unsuitable to a specialty - you can't have a little bit of a pact any more than you can be a little bit pregnant. And the minor invocations are more powerful than minor spells, and might well seem unsuitable. But I can think of one thing that the warlock has that others might have: Ritual casting. The 1st level feat, call it Ritualist, would give you a spellbook and one warlock spell in it. Anything else, you'd have to get from scrolls and so on. But I'm a bit stumped as to what further feats it might grant. Any ideas? (It could be argued that Ritualist could just as easily be derived from wizard, although warlocks do get some cleric spells as well. It could even be that something like Ritualist does appear later on in the Magic-User specialty.) [/QUOTE]
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