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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BigbyBear" data-source="post: 4202007" data-attributes="member: 65237">I don't want to get too far off topic, but I want to touch this real quick.While, I'll agree this wasn't very well done in 3.5,  Even in the limited rules we've seen so far we've seen multiple ways to adjudicate this.  As a beattie said, if you want to be a stickler about performing this as multiple actions, you could say you could attempt it with an action point.In the 4e demo I played, something similar to this was adjudicated to simply an athletics check because it wasn't a major plot point.If they had more time or I wanted to make it more difficult, I'd make this a skill challenge to see if they could come up with a more original solution than swoop in and grab her.perception to find a good anchoring pointsurvival to lasso itintuition could show them a fulcrum systemathletics to do the swoop inheal to make sure princess is ok.and those are just the obvious ones.-------------------------------As for the warlock/pally They said the 4e paladin has had his mark altered since the D&DXP, so that tactic, may no longer be possible under the rules</blockquote>