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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BlackSeed_Vash" data-source="post: 3035279" data-attributes="member: 33580">Ok, here's the deal. The Warlock has the Decieve Item (4th lvl) and Imbue Item (12th lvl). The first allows them to take 10 on any "Use Magic Device" {which is a class skill}. The second lets them replace a "Use Magic Device" check with the actual spell required.Now there are two different DCs for Imbue Item: Arcane spells are 15 + spell lvl; Divine spells are 25 + spell lvl.Now this is where I find it gets scary. To "cast" a 9th lvl Arcane spell the DC is 24; however, the smart Warlock will take 10, droping it to 14. Assuming he was built for this his "Use Magic Device" will be at '15' when he hits lvl 12. Right there the PC has surpassed the DC. And that is not counting the CHA Modifier, any magic items that add to CHA, the Magical Aptitude  feat and/or Skill Focus (Use Magic Device).As I see it the Warlock can get a 'min' "Use Magic Device" of +37 from the following+10 (taking 10)+5 (CHA)+15 (skill ranks)+2 (Magical Aptitude)+3 (Skill Focus (Use Magic Device))+2 (synergy from Spellcraft)Now I didn't bother adding in Magic Items simply because there is no need since the highest DC to beat (34) is for 9th lvl Divine spells. Even when they hit Epic, their skills and everything else will make the effort more a matter of time, spell components, and XP.</blockquote>